per discussion on 2月 entry

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>ninth month of the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>９月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>９月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

@@ -11,0 +11,1 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -16,0 +17,1 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>

@@ -23 +23 @@
-<gloss>wane (of the moon)</gloss>
+<gloss>wane (of the Moon)</gloss>

koj, daij, prog

@@ -6,0 +6,6 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>闕け</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>缺け</keb>
@@ -15,0 +21,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>wane (of the moon)</gloss>
+</sense>

adding lunar month calendar sense per old discussion on 2月

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>fifth month of the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>５月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>５月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

@@ -11,0 +11,1 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -16,0 +17,1 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>

adding lunar calendar sense per old discussion on 2月

@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>third month of the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>３月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>３月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

I think they should be just nouns.

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>

Should all these really be n-adv rather than n? You need the に, don't you?

n-adv→n
adding lunar month calendar sense per old discussion on 2月

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>fourth month in the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>４月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>４月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

@@ -11,0 +11,1 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -16,0 +17,1 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7月

なながつ is an alternative reading. According to Wikipedia it is sometimes used on purpose to avoid confusion with いちがつ.

@@ -18,0 +19,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>なながつ</reb>
+</r_ele>

per discussion on 2月 entry

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>seventh month of the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>７月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>７月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

@@ -17,0 +17,1 @@
+<gloss>co-worker</gloss>

a time/day/month shouldn't be marked as an adverb.  really, these should be [n-t] but that tag should just be dumped IMO

My understanding is that [n-adv] means a noun that also can be used as an adverb (without に).
The months are generally not used without に.
(In informal speech you can of course always drop particles).
So the months are not [n-adv].
Just my two cents.

We still need to decide whether all months should be tagged n or n-adv...

That is my understanding of the [n-t] tag as well.
If we need the tag at all is another question,
but that would be a topic for the mailing list.
The same could be asked about [n-adv].
Maybe just tagging words as [n], [adv], [n,adv] etc. would be simpler.

I feel like n-t (to the extent it's necessary) should maybe be reserved for entries expressing time that can (or must) be used without に, 
like 今日、あした, etc.. But our guidelines specify it as "時相名詞" and I don't know what that is exactly and google isn't very helpful.

per discussion on 2月 entry

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>eighth month of the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>８月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>８月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

@@ -11,0 +11,1 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -16,0 +17,1 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>

per discussion on 2月 entry

@@ -20 +20 @@
-<pos>&n-adv;</pos>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>sixth month of the lunar calendar</gloss>
+</sense>

@@ -3,0 +4,4 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>６月</keb>
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8,4 +11,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>６月</keb>
-<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>

@@ -11,0 +11,1 @@
+<ke_pri>spec1</ke_pri>
@@ -16,0 +17,1 @@
+<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>

OK

i think i agree.  but we have not always been consistent about what is tagged as [vs].  sometimes web-based evidence of usage has been enough to tag it as such, even though it could just be considered a common case of dropping the を.  i prefer to stick with the kokugos.

also the original suggestion of linking to 掛ける (sense 22!) might be more useful than linking to とする

@@ -21 +20,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
@@ -23 +21,0 @@
-<s_inf>賭けする should be 賭けをする or 賭する(と する)</s_inf>

Is the note necessary? If it can't be appended 
with する alone, is it even a legit vs? It's 
not explicitly listed as such in daij (no 
”スル” tag)

@@ -23 +23 @@
-<s_inf>賭けする should be 賭けをする or 賭する(とする)</s_inf>
+<s_inf>賭けする should be 賭けをする or 賭する(と する)</s_inf>

daijs
かけ【賭（け）】
shinmeikai
かけ【《賭】

usually i only really trust daijs/daijr for okurigana.  daijs has this (and it's in my ime), so it's probably fine.

the existing note is a little verbose

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>

gg5, prog, daij

I think these are better glosses, considering how the word is used.
I think 賭 is [io].

@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
@@ -24,3 +25,4 @@
-<gloss>betting</gloss>
-<gloss>gambling</gloss>
-<gloss>a gamble</gloss>
+<gloss>bet</gloss>
+<gloss>wager</gloss>
+<gloss>stake</gloss>
+<gloss>gamble</gloss>

@@ -12,0 +12,5 @@
+<re_restr>一匹狼</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>いっぴきオオカミ</reb>
+<re_restr>一匹オオカミ</re_restr>

Eij

@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>一匹オオカミ</keb>

GG5, 新和英中辞典

Just "delinquent account" can't be right - it has to be a fee/payment.

@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<gloss>delinquent account</gloss>
+<gloss>delinquent account charge</gloss>

http://eow.alc.co.jp/延滞金/UTF-8/
http://eow.alc.co.jp/延滞料/UTF-8/?ref=sa

@@ -13,0 +13,2 @@
+<gloss>late fee</gloss>
+<gloss>delinquent account</gloss>

rather obvious

@@ -23,0 +24 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>

リーダーズ+プラス (has いい天気), Eijiro

@@ -7,0 +7,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>よい天気</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>いい天気</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -9,0 +15,7 @@
+<re_restr>良い天気</re_restr>
+<re_restr>よい天気</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>いいてんき</reb>
+<re_restr>良い天気</re_restr>
+<re_restr>いい天気</re_restr>
@@ -12,1 +25,2 @@
-<gloss>fine (fair) weather</gloss>
+<gloss>fine weather</gloss>
+<gloss>fair weather</gloss>

hits

@@ -4,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>こざと偏</keb>
+</k_ele>

@@ -15,1 +15,1 @@
-<gloss>kanji "mound"/"small village" radical at left (radical 170)</gloss>
+<gloss>kanji "mound" or "small village" radical at left (radical 170)</gloss>

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/阜部

- making the format more like other kanji entries
 - cross-referencing おおざと for comparison (confusingly, 
these radicals have the same form, only changing the 
position)
 - though called こざと (cf. おおざと), it seem the actual 
meaning of this radical is hill/mound/earthly mountain (see 
reference).  so I listed both meanings (is that ok?)

@@ -12,0 +12,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2181520">邑・おおざと</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2181520">邑・おおざと</xref>
@@ -13,1 +15,1 @@
-<gloss>the "small village" kanji radical (radical 170)</gloss>
+<gloss>kanji "mound"/"small village" radical at left (radical 170)</gloss>

Entry created

gg5

@@ -12 +11,0 @@
-<gloss>serious damage, injury or loss</gloss>
@@ -13,0 +13,3 @@
+<gloss>major blow</gloss>
+<gloss>severe blow</gloss>
+<gloss>serious damage</gloss>

makes more sense to me

@@ -12,2 +12 @@
-<gloss>serious damage</gloss>
-<gloss>injury or loss</gloss>
+<gloss>serious damage, injury or loss</gloss>

@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<gloss>big blow</gloss>
+<gloss>heavy blow</gloss>

eij

@@ -14,0 +14,1 @@
+<gloss>big blow</gloss>

Entry created

@@ -36,1 +36,1 @@
-<gloss>tenths (e.g., wholesale price, as tenths of retail price)</gloss>
+<gloss>tenths (e.g. wholesale price, as tenths of retail price)</gloss>

* Add “wholesale price, as tenths of retail price” example
* Add back-link to corresponding definition in 掛け・かけ 
(Used in business class.)

@@ -35,0 +35,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1207600">掛け・かけ・4</xref>
@@ -36,1 +37,1 @@
-<gloss>tenths</gloss>
+<gloss>tenths (e.g., wholesale price, as tenths of retail price)</gloss>

meikyo for uk, daijs for headwords

converting to proper notes

@@ -7,0 +7,9 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>懸け</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>掛</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>懸</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -11,1 +20,1 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -13,1 +22,2 @@
-<gloss>(after an article of clothing) clad</gloss>
+<s_inf>after an article of clothing</s_inf>
+<gloss>-clad</gloss>
@@ -16,1 +26,1 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -18,1 +28,3 @@
-<gloss>(after a masu stem) in the midst of</gloss>
+<misc>&uk;</misc>
+<s_inf>after a -masu stem</s_inf>
+<gloss>in the midst of</gloss>
@@ -21,1 +33,1 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -23,1 +35,2 @@
-<gloss>(after a number in the ichi, ni counting system) tenths</gloss>
+<s_inf>after a number in the ichi, ni counting system</s_inf>
+<gloss>tenths</gloss>
@@ -26,1 +39,1 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -28,1 +41,2 @@
-<gloss>(after a number in the hitotsu, futatsu counting system) times (i.e. multiplied by)</gloss>
+<s_inf>after a number in the hitotsu, futatsu counting system</s_inf>
+<gloss>times (i.e. multiplied by)</gloss>
@@ -31,1 +45,1 @@
-<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
+<pos>&suf;</pos>
@@ -33,1 +47,2 @@
-<gloss>(after a number of people) able-to-seat (of a chair, etc.)</gloss>
+<s_inf>after a number of people</s_inf>
+<gloss>able-to-seat (of a chair, etc.)</gloss>

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/邑部

- making the format more like other radical entries.
 - cross-referencing こざと for comparison (confusingly, these 
radicals have the same form, only changing the position)
 - adding a sample like the one in こざと

@@ -15,0 +15,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2085810">阜偏・こざとへん</xref>
@@ -16,1 +17,2 @@
-<gloss>kanji "large village" radical</gloss>
+<s_inf>e.g. right side of 都</s_inf>
+<gloss>kanji "large village" radical at right (radical 163)</gloss>

Entry created

Messy. OK, let's leave it the way you had it.

i can go either way.  if we're going to include the meanings that stem from the 
-masu stem version of こぼす, should it be one sense combining all three 
senses of こぼす? or should we have [1] spilling [2] grumbling [3] letting 
emotion show [4] waste-water container.  if we're going to combine all three 
senses into one, i think there at least be a note (and an x-ref) explaining why 
three disparate meanings are combined into one sense

So you don't think there's a role for a 零し entry coming from the verb 零す?  WWWJDIC's text-glosser version generates one, then combines them, so we get "零し 《verb stem》 零す(P); 溢す; 翻す 【こぼす】 (v5s,vt) (1) to spill; (2) to grumble; (P); 零し; 溢し; 翻し; 翻 【こぼし】 ; (n) (1) (See 零す) spilling; grumbling; (2) (See 建水) waste-water container (tea ceremony); ED"
Maybe that's all that's needed.

@@ -23,0 +23,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="1737900">水翻し・みずこぼし</xref>

the first sense is obviously correct, but i think it makes a bit of a mess of things 
(e.g., blending all of the different senses of こぼす into a single sense here)

@@ -15,0 +15,1 @@
+<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
@@ -21,10 +22,0 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・2</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・1</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・2</xref>
-<gloss>spilling</gloss>
-<gloss>grumbling</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>

Entry created

sounds okay to me

The SLJ discussion (http://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang.japan/browse_thread/thread/fab4f5e0a2ddf9e2/84278c828a3db16e?show_docid=84278c828a3db16e or http://tinyurl.com/4pkmfr7) led back to that zokugo-dict article. I think we can safely reject this submission. The background on 連む is interesting, but I am not sure it can worked in.

i think the author may have just copied their meaning for つるめる from the 
meaning for つるむ from here http://zokugo-dict.com/18tu/turumu.htm
-
if this is kept, should it just be as a colloquial transitive form of つるむ?  this 
might be a question for the slj people

@@ -8,2 +8,5 @@
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<gloss>Hang out</gloss>
+<pos>&v1;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="1920230">連む</xref>
+<misc>&col;</misc>
+<gloss>to mix together</gloss>

http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1221897257

The explanation on that site is interesting. If I read it correctly, it says that it came from criminal jargon, but now just means to mix together.

without any evidence (e.g., references) supplied to indicate anything to the 
contrary, i suspect this is just the potential form of 連む and it should be rejected

おんなさいし is the only reading we have a reference for.  also, see comments and reference for 女教皇

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>おんなさいし</reb>
+</r_ele>

works for me

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang.japan/browse_thread/thread/230705e91919d18f/53282a89d6f6dbec?show_docid=53282a89d6f6dbec

Useful feedback from an NSJ (SLJ ref above.)

@@ -12,0 +12,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2611850">女性祭司</xref>
+<s_inf>esp. in tarot cards</s_inf>

Whatever the reading, this seems to be used to translate the Tarot Card called the High Priestess. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/女教皇

@@ -17,1 +17,1 @@
-<gloss>To be amazed</gloss>
+<gloss>to be amazed</gloss>

See below.

In the text which I was reading the added entry above was used. The inclusion would help the novice to find the result.

@@ -6,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>目をまるくする</keb>
@@ -14,0 +17,1 @@
+<gloss>To be amazed</gloss>

koj, daij, gg5

see rejected 'amendment' to 目

Vaguely useful for reverse lookups, but I agree there are probably more worth 若きXX cases.

若きエース	12005	  
若き数学者	11930	  
若き戦士	        8121	  
若き建築家	8013	    
若き開発者	6347
若き経営者	5838	    
若きリーダー	5683

I don't think this is needed.

Oops.

@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>わかきリーダー</reb>
+</r_ele>

Seems OK. It's an obvious enough construction, but not one I would immediately use for "young leader". 160k hits.

Maybe a little obvious, but I'm happy to let it in.

eij

koj, daij

GG5 too.

eij

Eijiro, GG5, LSD

GG5

@@ -12,1 +12,1 @@
-<gloss>(national) subversion</gloss>
+<gloss>subversion (of the state)</gloss>

Eijiro

OK. To enamdict.

i think that's fair.  i wouldn't necessarily expect this to pop up in a proper 
dictionary

With 24k hit's this is not trivial Perhaps in enamdict?

Wiki

GG5

@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<gloss>delinquent account</gloss>
+<gloss>delinquent account charge</gloss>

http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=延滞料&dtype=0&dname=0na&stype=0&pagenum=1&index=02694002014100
http://eow.alc.co.jp/延滞料/UTF-8/?ref=sa
http://eow.alc.co.jp/延滞金/UTF-8/

GG5, Eijiro

I'm getting more relaxed with ～的 forms, especially when they can help in the EJ direction.

@@ -13,0 +13,3 @@
+<gloss>risky</gloss>
+<gloss>hazardous</gloss>
+<gloss>perilous</gloss>

G4

Meaning is a bit obvious, but good to show it's 良き rather than いい or よい.

http://eow.alc.co.jp/良き手本/UTF-8/

GG5

@@ -13,0 +13,1 @@
+<gloss>townspeople</gloss>

http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch/0/0ss/114137200000/

Koj

Has a Tanaka example.