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A 2023-11-12 23:52:13 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-11-12 23:03:24 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
lighted -> lightly |
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@@ -39 +39 @@
-<gloss>deep-frying food lighted coated in flour or potato starch</gloss>
+<gloss>deep-frying food lightly coated in flour or potato starch</gloss> |
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A* 2023-11-12 22:47:39 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think we should mention it.
Refers to the technique as well as the food. |
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@@ -38,0 +39 @@
+<gloss>deep-frying food lighted coated in flour or potato starch</gloss> |
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A 2023-11-11 07:50:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2023-11-10 07:59:56 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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Refs: |
唐揚げ 939116 44.1%
から揚げ 681119 32.0%
唐揚 143321 6.7% daijs says 「唐揚げ」の字も当てることがある。
空揚げ 21679 1.0% rK
カラ揚げ 3885 0.2% sK
空揚 1678 0.1% rK
からあげ 308802 14.5%
カラあげ 264 0.0% remove
カラアゲ 28644 1.3% remove |
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Comments: |
meikyo and daijs say coated in flour or starch,
daijr says 何もつけないで，または小麦粉やかたくり粉を軽くまぶして油で揚げること
we could mention it but it might be messy. but KFC chicken wouldn't be called 唐揚げ |
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Diff: |
@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -13,0 +15 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -16,0 +19,5 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>空揚</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -20,3 +27 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>空揚</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26,5 +30,0 @@
-<re_restr>唐揚げ</re_restr>
-<re_restr>から揚げ</re_restr>
-<re_restr>唐揚</re_restr>
-<re_restr>空揚げ</re_restr>
-<re_restr>空揚</re_restr>
@@ -33,8 +32,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>カラあげ</reb>
-<re_restr>カラ揚げ</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>カラアゲ</reb>
-<re_nokanji/>
@@ -44,0 +37 @@
+<pos>&vt;</pos> |
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A 2018-02-21 22:04:22 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2018-02-21 00:28:24 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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https://cookpad.com/search/からあ%E
3%81%92
out of the first 11 recipes listed for the searchword か
らあげ, 10 are deep-fried chicken recipes. Out of these,
only one specifies "鶏のから揚げ". The only non-chicken
recipe specifies it's "タコの道具（内臓）の唐揚げ" |
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Comments: |
Didn't get the rationale for removing the mention of the
chicken. When I try google images, it all looks very much
like fried chicken to me, no potatoes or anything else. |
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@@ -46 +46 @@
-<gloss>deep-fried food</gloss>
+<gloss>deep-fried food (esp. chicken)</gloss> |
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A 2015-09-17 01:42:32 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2015-09-16 13:14:37 Johan Råde <...address hidden...>
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Google image search for 唐揚げ.
See also 揚げる[5]. |
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Diff: |
@@ -46 +46 @@
-<gloss>fried food (most oft. chicken)</gloss>
+<gloss>deep-fried food</gloss> |
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A 2014-05-27 11:27:05 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2014-05-27 08:57:49 Marcus Richert
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Diff: |
@@ -44,0 +45 @@
+<field>&food;</field> |
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A* 2014-05-27 08:57:36 Marcus Richert
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daijs, google images, etc. |
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Diff: |
@@ -45 +45 @@
-<gloss>fried (e.g. potatoes, chicken)</gloss>
+<gloss>fried food (most oft. chicken)</gloss> |
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A 2013-12-01 19:01:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
Yes, although within limits. If an "incorrect" kanji is actually more common, I don't think it should go first. |
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A* 2013-11-25 03:00:16 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
I guess that, by relying of Google n-grams, you are, in effect, choosing to be descriptive rather than prescriptive. |
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A* 2013-11-25 02:58:15 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
Google Verbatim search results:
"唐揚げ" - About 19,900,000 results
"空揚げ" - About 2,810,000 results ... and they ask: Did you mean: "唐揚げ"
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According to this article
http://www.nhk.or.jp/bunken/summary/kotoba/term/134.html
空揚げ is "correct" because この食べものが中国の「唐の国」とは直接の関係がない.
However, 現代の実態としては一般に「唐揚げ」と書かれることがたいへん多く.
So it depends whether you want to be prescriptive or descriptive.
The article has a chart which shows that, among older people, both forms are used quite a lot, but with younger generations, 唐揚げ usage is greater by a factor of about 5:1. So 唐揚げ may come to be regarded as "correct" in the future. |
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A 2013-11-20 23:35:50 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Comments: |
No clear way to do it. Interesting that 空揚げ trails, because all my refs have it first. |
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Diff: |
@@ -26,0 +26,5 @@
+<re_restr>唐揚げ</re_restr>
+<re_restr>から揚げ</re_restr>
+<re_restr>唐揚</re_restr>
+<re_restr>空揚げ</re_restr>
+<re_restr>空揚</re_restr>
@@ -28,0 +33,8 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>カラあげ</reb>
+<re_restr>カラ揚げ</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>カラアゲ</reb>
+<re_nokanji/> |
| 1. |
A* 2013-11-20 04:34:18 Richard Warmington <...address hidden...>
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Google n-gram counts
空揚げ 21679
空揚 1678
唐揚 143321
唐揚げ 939116
からあげ 308802
から揚げ 681119
カラアゲ 28644
カラ揚げ 3885 |
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Comments: |
How do you indicate that からあげ is the 3rd most frequent form
and カラアゲ the 5th? |
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Diff: |
@@ -5,1 +5,1 @@
-<keb>空揚げ</keb>
+<keb>唐揚げ</keb>
@@ -10,1 +10,1 @@
-<keb>空揚</keb>
+<keb>から揚げ</keb>
@@ -16,1 +16,7 @@
-<keb>唐揚げ</keb>
+<keb>空揚げ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>カラ揚げ</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>空揚</keb> |