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A 2023-09-01 10:55:59 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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-<xref type="see" seq="2757500">訳の分らない・わけのわからない</xref>
-<xref type="see" seq="2757500">訳の分らない・わけのわからない</xref> |
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A* 2023-09-01 03:50:29 Stephen Kraus <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 訳が分からない │ 38,497 │ 26.7% │
│ 訳がわからない │ 33,197 │ 23.0% │
│ わけが分からない │ 12,044 │ 8.4% │ - sK
│ 訳が分らない │ 1,506 │ 1.0% │ - sK
│ わけが分らない │ 318 │ 0.2% │
│ わけがわからない │ 58,554 │ 40.6% │
╰─ーーーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ |
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+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
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+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
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A 2020-10-09 03:31:39 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2020-10-08 22:53:51
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aligning |
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+<gloss>puzzling</gloss>
+<gloss>mysterious</gloss> |
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A 2019-01-20 05:27:25 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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It's not colloquial, at least not any more than the adj-i sense is. I'm not really sure this entry should have two senses (in a
kokugo dictionary, it certainly wouldn't) as I think they mean the same thing in Japanese, only it doesn't work out quite that way
in English. |
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-<misc>&col;</misc> |
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A 2019-01-19 03:51:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2019-01-19 01:41:11 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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I think these glosses work. |
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+<gloss>I'm confused</gloss>
+<gloss>I'm lost</gloss> |
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A 2019-01-17 10:43:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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訳が分からない 38497
訳がわからない 33197
わけが分からない 12044
訳が分らない 1506
わけがわからない 58554 |
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OK. Adding that. Not really "uk". |
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-<misc>&uk;</misc>
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+<sense>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<misc>&col;</misc>
+<gloss>I don't get it</gloss>
+</sense> |
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A* 2019-01-16 01:27:00 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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But 訳のわからないない can only be used as an
adj-i while 訳がわからない is much more
commonly an expression meaning "I don't
get it". |
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A* 2019-01-16 01:18:16 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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prog ex:
彼が何を言っているのか訳が分からない
What he says makes no sense. |
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I don't see a problem with adjective glosses. The only difference between 訳が分からない and 訳の分からない is that the latter has to come before a noun. |
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-<gloss>uncomprehending</gloss>
+<gloss>nonsensical</gloss>
+<gloss>meaningless</gloss> |
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A* 2019-01-14 01:40:47 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Eijiro: 訳が分からないカルト : obscure cult |
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I think this is a fair point, although there are cases like in the Eijiro example where it is adjectival. Perhaps we need 2 senses.
A similar comment could be made about most の/が + adjective expressions. |
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A* 2019-01-13 19:35:10
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Should this really be phrased as an
adjective? 訳のわからない, yes, but thr が
version...? |
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A 2015-06-04 09:23:33 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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A* 2015-05-18 07:53:55
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n-grams |
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sort of [uk], sort of not. |
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-<k_ele>
-<keb>訳が分らない</keb>
-</k_ele>
@@ -11,0 +9,6 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>わけが分からない</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>訳が分らない</keb> |
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A 2013-06-13 23:51:44 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Perhaps should be two senses. |
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+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>訳が分からない</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>訳がわからない</keb> |
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A* 2013-06-13 21:14:35 winnie <...address hidden...>
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As in 訳が分からないという表情 -- "an puzzled (uncomprehending) expression". |
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+<gloss>uncomprehending</gloss> |
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A 2012-11-17 22:39:00 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I'll add it. We have a lot of ...が.../...の... pairs. In fact in WWW hits わけのわからない is more common than わけがわからない. |
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+<pos>&exp;</pos>
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+<xref type="see" seq="2757500">訳の分らない・わけのわからない</xref> |
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A* 2012-11-17 02:31:13 winnie <...address hidden...>
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The phrase can also be written 訳の分からない with the same meaning, (incomprehensible or confusing), but I don't know if that's worth adding a new entry for. |