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A 2020-07-13 02:22:59 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Yes, once I'd put it together it troubled me a bit. みて and みたら forms should be more obvious but this one isn't. I'll let it go in as-is. (I wondered about adding 見そ which gets a few hits but they mostly seem to be from 見そなはす, etc.) |
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@@ -4,6 +3,0 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>みて</reb>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>みたら</reb>
-</r_ele>
@@ -18,2 +12,2 @@
-<gloss>have a try</gloss>
-<gloss>give it a go</gloss>
+<gloss>go ahead and try</gloss>
+<gloss>why don't you give it a go?</gloss> |
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A* 2020-07-13 00:49:50 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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I don't this is a good entry. みそ by
itself, sure, it's irregular, not familiar
with it but seems worth recording, but -て
and -たら forms are not the same, the
meaning can be similar but one is an
imperative, one is a suggestion. |
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A* 2020-07-13 00:33:31 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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Here's an attempt to turn it into a more general entry. I'm not sure if the forms have slightly different meanings.
We have a やって見る entry and most of the 113 Tanaka examples for it use やってみて, a few use やってみたら and none use やってみそ. |
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+<r_ele>
+<reb>みて</reb>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>みたら</reb>
+</r_ele>
@@ -9,3 +15,5 @@
-<misc>&sl;</misc>
-<gloss>(after verb in te form) go ahead and try</gloss>
-<gloss>why don't you give it a go?</gloss>
+<xref type="see" seq="1259290">見る・みる・5</xref>
+<misc>&col;</misc>
+<s_inf>after te form verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>have a try</gloss>
+<gloss>give it a go</gloss> |
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A* 2020-07-06 23:29:03 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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実用日本語表現辞典: 「やってみたら?」、「やってみて」などを意味する語。
やってみそ 10988
やってみたら 390190
やってみて 1079122
食べてみそ 2602
食べてみたら 116148
食べてみて 478622
やって見そ < 20
やって見たら 5464
やって見て 35429 |
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This is a variant of sense 5 of 見る: (aux-v,v1) (uk) to try ...; to have a go at ...; to give ... a try.
I guess there might be a case for a みて/みたら/みそ entry to highlight that usage, as it's a bit buried in the 見る entry. |
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A* 2020-07-06 20:02:05
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https://www.kaigaikakibito.com/blog/japanese-obsolete-words-dictionary-shigo-jiten-miso/ |
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A* 2020-07-06 20:00:29
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https://www.weblio.jp/content/やってみそ
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1111681771 |