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jmdict 1481480 Rejected (id: 1941877)
版 [ichi1,news1,nf13]
【はん [ichi1,news1,nf13] ；ばん】

1.	[n,n-suf] 《ばん when a suffix》 ▶ edition ▶ version ▶ printing ▶ impression ▶ implementation (e.g. software) ▶ port (video game)
2.	[n] ▶ plate ▶ block ▶ cast
3.	[ctr] ▶ editions of a publication

History:

12.	R 2016-12-24 20:16:25 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	agree
11.	A* 2016-12-22 12:04:24 Robin Scott
	Comments:	Don't think that requires an extra gloss, to be honest. It's covered by "edition" and "version".
10.	A* 2016-12-15 12:29:33
	Refs:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porting#Porting_of_video_games
	Comments:	PC98版、MAC版、ゲームキューブ版
	Diff:	@@ -27,0 +28 @@ +<gloss>port (video game)</gloss>
9.	A 2016-12-07 22:31:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	As I commented 3 years ago, GG5 has both はん and ばん on the main (noun) entry, and ばん on its suffix entry, which just points to one of the senses in the main entry. I feel we can safely follow that path too.
	Diff:	@@ -22 +22 @@ -<s_inf>read ばん when used as a suffix</s_inf> +<s_inf>ばん when a suffix</s_inf> @@ -36 +35,0 @@ -<pos>&suf;</pos> @@ -38 +37 @@ -<gloss>counter for editions of a publication</gloss> +<gloss>editions of a publication</gloss>
8.	A* 2016-12-07 00:22:23 Robin Scott
	Comments:	Rene, that note comes under the 3rd sense. There's no need to list (or even mention) ぱん because it's merely a rendaku reading. ばん, however, is the only valid reading for 版 (regardless of what comes before it) when used as a suffix in the first sense. Daijr even has an entry for ばん which redirects to はん (版). If I can't convince you to keep it in the list of readings, a note like the one I've written is an acceptable compromise.
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7.	A* 2016-12-06 22:58:27 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	daijs: 上に来る語によって「ぱん」ともなる。
	Comments:	also pronounced "pan" on occasion. i don't know that we want to have the suffix readings here as main readings as opposed to just a note (or a separate entry)
6.	A* 2016-12-05 23:07:14 Robin Scott
	Refs:	Daijr, Daijs
	Comments:	I wouldn't describe ばん as 連濁 here. It's the only reading for 版 when used as a suffix (excl. 助数詞 usage), so it definitely needs a mention. Compare with the 3rd (counter) sense where the reading follows regular 連濁 rules (はん in 第２版 but ぱん in 第３版).
	Diff:	@@ -15,0 +16,3 @@ +<r_ele> +<reb>ばん</reb> +</r_ele> @@ -18,0 +22 @@ +<s_inf>read ばん when used as a suffix</s_inf> @@ -30,0 +35,5 @@ +<sense> +<pos>&suf;</pos> +<pos>&ctr;</pos> +<gloss>counter for editions of a publication</gloss> +</sense>
5.	A 2016-07-10 04:59:08 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	We don't usually try and represent the 連濁 in these cases. See the 本 entry.
4.	A* 2016-07-05 21:11:14
	Comments:	Usually read "ban" when suffix
3.	A* 2016-07-05 12:31:48
	Diff:	@@ -17,0 +18 @@ +<pos>&n-suf;</pos>
2.	A 2013-10-28 01:00:20 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	better like this, IMO
1.	A* 2013-10-26 22:13:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Daijr, GG5, 新和英中辞典, etc.
	Comments:	Daijr has 7 senses and GG5 has 5. I feel the distinctions are really too subtle, e.g. GG5 splits up "edition", "deluxe edition" and "foreign-language edition". Also both Daijr and GG5 has separate entries for 版/はん and 版/ばん, with the latter pointing the former. Do we need this too?
	Diff:	@@ -20,0 +20,9 @@ +<gloss>printing</gloss> +<gloss>impression</gloss> +<gloss>implementation (e.g. software)</gloss> +</sense> +<sense> +<pos>&n;</pos> +<gloss>plate</gloss> +<gloss>block</gloss> +<gloss>cast</gloss>

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