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jmdict 2257550 Active (id: 2299196)
<entry id="2299196" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2257550</ent_seq>
<r_ele>
<reb>ない</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&aux-adj;</pos>
<pos>&suf;</pos>
<s_inf>verb-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation</s_inf>
<gloss>not</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2008-02-28 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-02-17 22:48:14" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>-&gt;notes</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,1 +10,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;not (verb-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;verb-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;not&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -16,1 +17,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;emphatic suffix (used after the root of an adjective)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;after the root of an adjective&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;emphatic suffix&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-05-31 06:27:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>pupchurch</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Paul Upchurch</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>As far as I can tell, we don't have anything anywhere indicating the use of ねえ/ねー/ねぇ in place of ない, and it's probably worth having. My first thought was adding it here, but maybe a separate entry with [col] and an xref here would be better?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-05-31 11:53:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I suggest adding it as another sense of the ねえ/ね entry and having xrefs.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-06-04 08:11:32" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll close this and propose the change to the ねえ entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-12 12:26:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Rene has pointed out in the long-running adj-i/adj-ix debate that sense 1 should be "aux-v". I agree.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/28944/should-i-use-%E3%81%AA%E3%81%99%E3%81%8E%E3%82%8B-or-%E3%81%AA%E3%81%95%E3%81%99%E3%81%8E%E3%82%8B</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +9 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;aux-adj;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;aux-v;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-18 03:28:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>potentially this means a lot of changes to other entries that end in -nai</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-06-27 17:29:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i.e. かわいく_ない_</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +10 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;verb-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;verb- and adjective-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-06-29 04:11:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +10 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;verb- and adjective-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;verb and adjective-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-06-29 06:37:29" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Sorry, is the adjectival use maybe covered by the 無い entry's "not" sense?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-16 04:10:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Quite possibly, but it's been there for years and I'm reluctant to chop it. Harmless.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-17 10:34:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Just meant to say my addition was actually already covered by a separate entry.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +10 @@
-&lt;s_inf&gt;verb and adjective-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;verb-negating suffix; may indicate question or invitation with rising intonation&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-24 22:44:37" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Is there a reason that these senses aren't part of the 1529520 ない entry?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-07-26 03:30:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not a question I can really answer, but I note that many references split ない into two entries in a similar way.
1529520 has been an entry from the beginning of this dictionary, and has been edited a lot. It was split into senses in early 2008 by Rene, shortly after he added this entry.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-08-06 07:46:46" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>No further discussion.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-09-20 19:52:04" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>is sense 1 aux-v or aux-adj?  do we really need separate tags for these?

should we just simplify by calling them all "aux" and call it a day?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-10-14 04:22:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'll just make it "suf" like sense 2. ません should be the same.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -9 +9 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;aux-v;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;suf;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-04-19 06:08:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Non</upd_name>
<upd_detl>2 Should be its own entry, it does not share an origin with the negative helper nor are the meanings similar. Added [aux-adj] to reflect inflection paradigm.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs, daijr</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;aux-adj;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -12,7 +12,0 @@
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;suf;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-i;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;xref type="see" seq="2008630"&gt;忙しない&lt;/xref&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;after the root of an adjective&lt;/s_inf&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;emphatic suffix&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-04-25 23:49:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I have split off sense 2.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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