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<k_ele>
<keb>ホタル族</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>蛍族</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ほたるぞく</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>smokers forced to smoke outside</gloss>
<gloss g_type="lit">firefly tribe</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-04-09 04:05:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_refs>wiki daijs</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-04-13 12:56:11" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Daijr, KOD追加語彙</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +7,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ホタル族</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -9,0 +12,5 @@
+<re_restr>蛍族</re_restr>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ホタルぞく</reb>
+<re_restr>ホタル族</re_restr>
@@ -13,1 +21,1 @@
-<gloss>people in apartment buildings or mansions who go out on their balcony to smoke a cigarette</gloss>
+<gloss>smokers forced to smoke outside</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-04-13 16:25:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_detl>The daijisen and wikipedia entries don't talk about workers at all. wiki:"蛍族(ほたるぞく)は、マンションなどの集合住宅のベランダにおいて、喫煙をする人、ないしその行為を指す俗称[1]。ほたる族。ホタル族。"
Kotobank agrees:http://kotobank.jp/word/%E8%9B%8D%E6%97%8F%E3%83%BB%E3%83%9B%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AB%E6%97%8F%E3%83%BB%E3%81%BB%E3%81%9F%E3%82%8B%E6%97%8F
same here: http://zokugo-dict.com/30ho/hotaruzoku.htm
news article: http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/nonsec/73946/ (seems like it might become illegal)
eij just has "outside smokers"
I can't find a ref for the "workers" sense. Maybe it's just KOD?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +22,1 @@
+<gloss>people who smoke on the veranda or balcony of their apartment or condo</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-04-14 05:38:16" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think it needs to include veranda/apartment/condo/pavement/back garden/porch/etc. The rakuten example is clearly an office.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>KOD追加語彙: "〔マンションのベランダなどで喫煙する人たちの俗称〕 “the firefly tribe”; smokers who light up (cigarettes) on the veranda (at night); smokers forced to smoke outside (the office)."
Daijr: "...ベランダなど...".
http://plaza.rakuten.co.jp/mrchingsang/diary/200903280000/</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,1 +22,0 @@
-<gloss>people who smoke on the veranda or balcony of their apartment or condo</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-04-14 06:06:31" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-04-14 07:13:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,1 +20,0 @@
-<gloss>firefly tribe</gloss>
@@ -22,0 +21,1 @@
+<gloss g_type="lit">firefly tribe</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-04-14 11:39:23" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>BTW, some of the WWW images show people sitting on steps, etc.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-01-18 08:38:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_detl>are they necessarily "forced"?
I don't see this in daij</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-01-19 22:36:54" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>i think the meaning is obvious and it's fine</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>koj
ほたる‐ぞく【蛍族】
(夜間タバコの火が蛍のように見えることから)室内で喫煙ができず、ベランダなどに出てタバコを吸う人たちの俗称。1980年代末からいう語。</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-20 04:50:46" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Simpler</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>蛍族 2783 36.0%
ホタル族 4874 63.1%
ほたるぞく 64 0.8%
ホタルぞく 0 0.0%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5 +5 @@
-<keb>蛍族</keb>
+<keb>ホタル族</keb>
@@ -8 +8 @@
-<keb>ホタル族</keb>
+<keb>蛍族</keb>
@@ -12,5 +11,0 @@
-<re_restr>蛍族</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ホタルぞく</reb>
-<re_restr>ホタル族</re_restr></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>