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<keb>打物師</keb>
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<k_ele>
<keb>打ち物師</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>うちものし</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&rare;</misc>
<gloss>smith</gloss>
<gloss>metalsmith</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&rare;</misc>
<gloss>swordsmith</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2023-10-10 18:05:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Just edited the entry for 打物. The daijs entry for 打物師 actually says nothing about weapons. Not only that, but swordsmith implies swords, and 打物[1] is *any* metal weapon. I'm not sure if there is an (esp. of weapons) sense here or not.
daijs: 金属を打って器物を作る職人。
Seems like an 打ち物師 is anyone who hammers metal into stuff. Doesn't have to be a blacksmith (iron). Could be a coppersmith, goldsmith, etc. It's someone who makes uchimono. The last ref. is someone who works with brass and copper (not a blacksmith, not a swordsmith).</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalsmith
A metalsmith or simply smith is a craftsperson fashioning useful items (for example, tools, kitchenware, tableware, jewelry, armor and weapons) out of various metals.[1] Smithing is one of the oldest metalworking occupations. Shaping metal with a hammer (forging) is the archetypical component of smithing.
Swordsmiths:
打物師 24 0.0%
打ち物師 0 0.0%
刀匠 23598 33.8%
刀工 17291 24.8%
剣匠 3117 4.5%
刀鍛冶 25803 36.9%
A whole article on Buddhist 打物 mentioning 打物師
https://kokadou.com/2020/05/19/%E8%81%B7%E4%BA%BA%E3%81%AE%E3%81%A4%E3%81%B6%E3%82%84%E3%81%8D%E4%BB%8F%E5%85%B7%E6%89%93%E7%89%A9%E5%B8%AB%E7%B7%A8%E3%83%BB%E4%BB%8F%E5%85%B7%E3%81%AE%E8%A9%B1%E5%A4%A7%E8%B0%B7%E6%B4%BE/
打物ってかいて、“うちもの”って呼びます。なんかボールを打つみたいですが、真鍮や銅の板を叩いて菊灯や、灯籠を作る職人を打物師といいますねん。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15,3 @@
-<gloss>swordsmith</gloss>
+<misc>&rare;</misc>
+<gloss>smith</gloss>
+<gloss>metalsmith</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-11 09:18:40" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>Daijirin: (1)金属をきたえて器物を作る職人。(2)刀剣をきたえる職人。刀工。
GG5: a swordsmith</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +19,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>swordsmith</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-10-12 00:02:44" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,0 +21 @@
+<misc>&rare;</misc></upd_diff>
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