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<entry id="2275230" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
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<k_ele>
<keb>揉みしだく</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>揉み拉く</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>もみしだく</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to crumple (up)</gloss>
<gloss>to wrinkle</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&v5k;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>to rub thoroughly</gloss>
<gloss>to massage (esp. in sexual contexts)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2012-07-14 05:37:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>pupchurch</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Paul Upchurch</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>daijs, nikkoku</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-07-17 05:48:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-07-10 13:38:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>luce</upd_name>
<upd_detl>I'm getting zero n-grams for 揉み拉く and its conjugations</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>n-grams</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;揉みしだく&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-07-13 02:55:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Good to have 揉みしだく added.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>It's in 大辞泉. GG5 has 揉みしだく only.</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-22 21:22:24" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>After I wrote up my analysis, I swapped [1] and [2].  Seems pretty overwhelmingly sexual in literature, and online in general. See the yahoo reference for an off-the-cuff remark on the overtly sexual connotations of this term.

[vulg]? [sl]? Maybe just [col](not in the dictionary...).  I personally think [vulg] is probably too strong, but it is pretty obviously very sexual and will appear with other [vulg] terms, so I don't know how to tag that. Maybe something like 押し倒す does:
    to push (and hold) someone down (esp. with sexual connotations)

Pretty funny to stumble on in any case.  I think I would liken this to the English word "fondle".  Sure, it doesn't *have* to be sexual. You *can* fondle around for keys in your pocket...

Google image search is *entirely* blocked "safe search" settings.  Yourei examples are extensive, and the direct object is overwhelmingly 乳房 , followed by 胸.  If you have safe-search off on your image search, this will be confirmed.

sankoku uses くしゃくしゃ , which is indeed crumpling paper.  daijs is similar. This to me looks like a dictionary shying away from a vulgar or slang usage. [1] and [2] seem pretty evidently independent to me.    

~90% of yourei contexts are overtly sexual. There was one occurrence (3%) of "crumpling paper".  
On the first page alone, 28 total results, the direct objects were:
乳房 13 hits - breasts
胸 6 hits - chest
陰茎と睾丸 1 hit - penis &amp; testicles
ペニス 2
体 1 (sexual)
躰 1 (sexual)
1 procession of body parts, don't know where it leads (left arm, right arm, neck...)

Possibly one non-sexual reference rubbing ones own face between the eyebrows 眉間

All of those were sense [1]. There was *one* example of [2], crumpling a newspaper:
カサカサと新聞紙を揉みしだく気配もする。痛くないんだろうか。

On the ngrams, usually there are some flowery words between 乳房 and 揉みしだく. The ngrams counts only capture the extremely direct statements.

You could certainly make similar points for 揉む and "massage", but 揉みしだく seems to be far more exclusively sexual. (compare image search results, for example).</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Perfect confirmation.  Someone asks to use in a sentence. Japanese respondent reacts with a joke... "other than what everyone thinks about first";
国語の宿題です。「揉みしだく」を使った例文を1つ教えて下さい。
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q11242141201
誰もが最初に想像する、「揉みしだく」のあの用例以外を挙げるならば(笑)、
・固い動物の毛皮を揉みしだいて柔らかくする。
・樹皮を揉みしだいて紙の代わりにする。
なんてのはどうでしょうか。


Yourei examples (a lot)
https://yourei.jp/%E6%8F%89%E3%81%BF%E3%81%97%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8F

揉みしだき	2179	66.0%
乳房を揉みしだき	260	7.9%
胸を揉みしだき	294	8.9%
紙を揉みしだき	0	0.0%
新聞を揉みしだき	0	0.0%

乳房を揉みしだく	199	6.0%
胸を揉みしだく	371	11.2%
紙を揉みしだく	0	0.0%
新聞を揉みしだく	0	0.0%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16,6 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;col;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to rub thoroughly (esp. with sexual connotations, e.g. breasts)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;v5k;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vt;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -18 +23,0 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to rub thoroughly&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-22 21:40:51" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Sorry, one more. removed previously suggested [col].  Defined in daijs as よく揉む, which covers everything under 揉む.

Obviously "rub" is the wrong "momu" here for the common use case. But *anything* under 揉む can appear here ("rubbed between his eyes to relieve his stress", or whatever...).</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,2 +16,2 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;col;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to rub thoroughly (esp. with sexual connotations, e.g. breasts)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to rub thoroughly&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to massage thoroughly (esp. with sexual connotations, e.g. breasts)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-22 23:56:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>GG5 and Daijisenonly have the crumpling meaning. I think it should lead.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5, Daijisen, Jitsuyou</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,2 +16,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to rub thoroughly&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to massage thoroughly (esp. with sexual connotations, e.g. breasts)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to crumple (up)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to wrinkle&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -22,2 +22,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to crumple (up)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to wrinkle&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to rub thoroughly&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;to massage (esp. in sexual contexts)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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