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<entry id="2274808" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2858568</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>天から降ったか地から湧いたか</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>てんからふったかちからわいたか</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&exp;</pos>
<misc>&id;</misc>
<gloss>(appearing) out of nowhere</gloss>
<gloss g_type="lit">as if one had fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2023-08-14 20:22:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Aseth</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>this is brought up as an example sentence in shinmeikai for the word "成句" , although in there is 涌いた instead of 湧いた</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>https://proverb-encyclopedia.com/tenkara/</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-14 23:24:49" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>GG5 (天 entry): 天から降ったか地から湧いたか忽然と一人の老人が現れた. Suddenly an old man appeared, as if he had sprung right out of the ground or fallen from the sky.
https://kotowaza.mslifer.com/2699.html</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,2 +13,3 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;to appear out of nowhere&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;to suddenly appear&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;appearing out of nowhere&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;suddenly appearing&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;falling from the sky, springing from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-14 23:46:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;proverb;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;id;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -15 +15 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;falling from the sky, springing from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;(as if) fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-15 03:50:43" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Despite it being on kotowaza/proverb lists, it's probably better described as an idiomatic expression.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-15 21:37:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think it needs to be glossed like this.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13,3 +13,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;appearing out of nowhere&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;suddenly appearing&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;(as if) fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(appearing) out of nowhere&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;as if one had fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-15 22:03:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-16 21:49:13" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -14 +14 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;as if one had fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;as if fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-08-16 23:13:55" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't think that's grammatical.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -14 +14 @@
-&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;as if fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss g_type="lit"&gt;as if one had fallen from the sky or sprung from the ground&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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