<entry id="2221040" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1189060</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>何条</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>なんじょう</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>what article (of a legal document, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>what clause</gloss>
<gloss>what section</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<s_inf>of streets ending in 条</s_inf>
<gloss>which street</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&adv;</pos>
<misc>&arch;</misc>
<gloss>how can (one possibly do ...)</gloss>
<gloss>cannot possibly ...</gloss>
<gloss>there is no way ...</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2023-01-07 23:39:58" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
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<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮
│ 何条　　　 │ 17,908 │ 67.3% │
│ 何じょう　 │     22 │  0.1% │ - sK
│ なんじょう │  8,698 │ 32.7% │
╰─ーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-08 02:31:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-08 03:40:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>do we usu. include question marks in glosses like these?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-08 03:51:12" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>We do. There are plenty of entries with "what ...?" glosses, e.g. 何か用.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-08 07:13:06" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I suggest removing sense 3, should be a separate entry relaly (but it's arch, so)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>何番,何個,何ヶ月,何人,何分,何回,何年 are n
なんぼ is adv
何万年,何度 are both
何割,何年間,何年生,何座,何日 are exp

we need to standardize PoS for these.


aslo very few (or maybe none, max 1-2) of these have question marks in the glosses.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;what street? (esp. in Kyoto and Sapporo)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;s_inf&gt;of streets ending in 条&lt;/s_inf&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;which street&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -20,9 +21 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;what article? (in a law)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adv;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;arch;&lt;/misc&gt;
-&lt;s_inf&gt;the 条 in 何条 is an ateji&lt;/s_inf&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;how can?&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;cannot possibly&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;there is no way&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;what article (in a law)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-09 00:38:36" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>Question marks should only be used for sentences.
I think the kokugos classify 何[counter] terms as nouns, but the definitions often end in "...のときに用いる語", "...を表す", etc. so it feels like a separate category to me. Is the "何人" in "何人いる？" considered adverbial? The "what ..." (as opposed to "how many ...") terms seem to function only as nouns.
GG5 and meikyo and have the third sense. I think it should stay.
I think the "what article" sense should lead.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,4 +6,0 @@
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;何じょう&lt;/keb&gt;
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
@@ -15 +11,7 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adv;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;what article (of a legal document, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;what clause&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;what section&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -21 +23,4 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;what article (in a law)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;arch;&lt;/misc&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;how can (one possibly do ...)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;cannot possibly ...&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;there is no way ...&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-09 01:17:01" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
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<upd_detl>n looks good to me (without having thought too deeply on the topic)</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-01-09 21:52:58" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_detl>reopening as reminder to align pos on other similar 何x entries</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2023-02-06 03:29:44" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I've gone through the 何x entries, so this can close.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>