<entry id="2063928" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2780330</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>二八蕎麦</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>にはちそば</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="1238460">蕎麦・そば・1</xref>
<gloss>soba made with two parts wheat flour to eight parts buckwheat flour</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-03-28 04:55:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Scott</upd_name>
<upd_refs>daijs</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-03-31 01:26:45" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>one fifth, not one fourth</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijr, daijs</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,1 +12,1 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;soba made with one fourth udon flour&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;soba made with two parts udon flour to eight parts soba flour&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-03-31 23:57:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-09 06:54:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Jim Rose</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>1) there is no such animal as "udon flour".  Udon is thick noodle usually made with wheat flour.  Soba is the Japanese name for usually thinner, usually buckwheat noodles.

2) in my experience, there is often conflation of wheat (a grass) and buckwheat (a cover plant).  Buckwheat is not wheat.  They're completely different kinds of plants.

For that reason, some clarity on this entry seems appropriate.  Telling me a noodle is 20% "udon flour" is meaningless unless I happen to believe that udon is always made with 
100% wheat flour.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;soba made with two parts udon flour to eight parts soba flour&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;soba made with two parts wheat (Triticum aestivum) flour to eight parts buckwheat (Fagopyrum esculentum) flour&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2020-04-09 11:16:38" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Not the pace to have those plant names.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -12 +12,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;soba made with two parts wheat (Triticum aestivum) flour to eight parts buckwheat (Fagopyrum esculentum) flour&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;xref type="see" seq="1238460"&gt;蕎麦・そば・1&lt;/xref&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;soba made with two parts wheat flour to eight parts buckwheat flour&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>