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<k_ele>
<keb>又従兄弟</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>又従姉妹</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>又従兄</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>又従弟</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>又従兄妹</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>又従姉弟</keb>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>またいとこ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2800260">再従兄弟・はとこ</xref>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<s_inf>又従兄 and 又従弟 are abbr.</s_inf>
<gloss>second cousin</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2013-09-15 09:05:32" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_detl>this is crazy messy. let's split it up?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-09-15 11:54:17" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>> this is crazy messy.
Yes, it is.
> let's split it up?
Into what?
The EJs mostly just give "またいとこ" with no kanji (you can see why). I was tempted to sort the kanji forms into frequency order, but they are sort-of in families, so I suspect they are better as they are.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>GG5, etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -14,1 +14,1 @@
-<keb>再従姉弟</keb>
+<keb>再従姉妹</keb>
@@ -17,1 +17,1 @@
-<keb>再従姉妹</keb>
+<keb>再従姉弟</keb>
@@ -52,0 +52,1 @@
+<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
@@ -53,1 +54,0 @@
-<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
@@ -63,0 +63,1 @@
+<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
@@ -64,1 +65,0 @@
-<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
@@ -87,0 +87,1 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-09-17 10:06:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_detl>the 又 variants can only be read as "また~" so that's one
obvious split right there. The 二従~ forms are the only ones
read "ふた~" (and that's their only reading) so that could
be a third entry (out of these 4 versions, only 兄弟
registers on ngram, with 59 hits) and could maybe be split.
_
my suggestion:
_
entry 1: 又~ (また~)
_
entry 2: 再従~ (は~, さいじゅうけいてい)
_
entry 3: 二従~ (ふた~)</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs nikk</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-09-17 18:55:03" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Split as Marcus suggests. Ordered according to ngrams.
Although all the EJs give またいとこ for "second cousin", I see that はとこ is more common.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Daijr, GG5, etc.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,12 +8,0 @@
-<keb>又従兄妹</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>再従兄弟</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>再従姉妹</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>再従姉弟</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -21,15 +9,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>又従姉弟</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>二従兄弟</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>二従兄妹</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>二従姉妹</keb>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>二従姉弟</keb>
@@ -44,2 +17,4 @@
-<keb>再従兄妹</keb>
-<ke_inf>&iK;</ke_inf>
+<keb>又従兄妹</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>又従姉弟</keb>
@@ -49,35 +24,0 @@
-<re_restr>又従兄弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>又従兄妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従兄弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従姉弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>又従姉妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>又従姉弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>又従兄</re_restr>
-<re_restr>又従弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従兄妹</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ふたいとこ</reb>
-<re_restr>再従兄弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従姉弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>二従兄弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>二従兄妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>二従姉妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>二従姉弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従兄妹</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>はとこ</reb>
-<re_restr>再従兄弟</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
-<re_restr>再従兄妹</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>はいとこ</reb>
-<re_restr>再従兄弟</re_restr>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>さいじゅうけいてい</reb>
-<re_restr>再従姉妹</re_restr>
@@ -87,0 +27,1 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2800260">再従兄弟・はとこ</xref>
@@ -88,1 +29,1 @@
-<s_inf>はいとこ is Tohoku dialect, 又従兄 &amp; 又従弟 are abbr.</s_inf>
+<s_inf>又従兄 &amp; 又従弟 are abbr.</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2013-09-19 05:48:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-08-25 02:51:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Adding yoji tagAdding yoji tag
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Kanji Haitani list</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -28,0 +29 @@
+<misc>&yoji;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-10-12 11:37:26" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Removing yoji tag</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -30 +29,0 @@
-<misc>&yoji;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-10-13 03:45:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2017-04-30 05:52:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The ampersand is a bit of an issue in that field.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -29 +29 @@
-<s_inf>又従兄 &amp; 又従弟 are abbr.</s_inf>
+<s_inf>又従兄 and 又従弟 are abbr.</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>