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<entry id="1150017" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
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<audit time="2013-02-21 01:00:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>these shouldn't be together.  にくい/がたい are suffixes; かたい is not.  usage tags belong on がたい/にくい</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,6 +6,0 @@
@@ -15,12 +9,0 @@
@@ -29,1 +11,1 @@
<audit time="2013-02-21 01:02:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>although i see かたい was given a [spec2]</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -6,0 +6,1 @@
@@ -9,0 +10,1 @@
<audit time="2013-02-21 05:46:44" stat="A">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<audit time="2013-12-07 12:59:18" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>The sample sentence under the above entry is as follows:-

難い 【かたい】 (adj-i) difficult; hard; (P) [Edit][Ex][L][G][GI][S][A][JW]
     プラスチックは割れにくい。 Plastic does not break easily.[Amend]

There seems to be a linkage problem.

If one takes the entry for "にくい", one sees the following:-

にくい(P); がたい(難い) 《難い(P); 悪い》 (suf,adj-i) (uk) (after the -masu stem of a verb) (See 為悪い・しにくい) difficult to ...; hard to ...; (P) [Edit][Ex][G][GI][S][A][JW] [G][GI][S][A][JW]
     プラスチックは割れにくい。 Plastic does not break easily.[Amend]

Where the sample sentence is all right.

I can understand that with a reading based upon "難い" that there may be reasonable explanations for the above locations of the sample sentence. However, if it is possible to correct the error then it is good, having spotted it, that I raise it.

As a suggestion, I am wondering if the two main entries could be merged again, but maybe a problem will arise in respect of that suggestion owing to the two readings of "かたい" and "がたい" as already noted by Rene. However, sometimes it is better to break the rules and end up with understanding by bring two things together, than to keep to the rules and leave confusion.

Also when looking for my original search for "耐えにくい", I could only find the following:-

耐え難い; 耐難い; 堪え難い 【たえがたい】 (adj-i) unbearable; intolerable; unendurable

Maybe "にくい" cannot be used with "耐え", but it is noted with a [P] in the entry for "にくい", shown above.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>See below.</upd_refs>
<audit time="2013-12-09 01:36:08" stat="A">
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>There are 78 sentences linked to 難い, and the overwhelming majority are for にくい/がたい. I have relinked them, so in a week or so this problem should be fixed.</upd_detl>

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