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<entry> <ent_seq>2848034</ent_seq> <k_ele> <keb>そもそも論</keb> </k_ele> <k_ele> <keb>抑論</keb> </k_ele> <r_ele> <reb>そもそもろん</reb> </r_ele> <trans> <xref>そもそも・1</xref> <trans_det>going back to the beginning (in a discussion, argument, etc.)</trans_det> <trans_det>returning to the fundamental points (of the issue at hand)</trans_det> <trans_det>discussion of how things began (in the first place)</trans_det> </trans> </entry>