jmdict 2568040 Active (id#1984758)
せられる
  1. [aux-v,v1] [hon]
    《used for others' actions》
    • to do
    Cross references:
    • ⇒ see: 2568000 られる 4. used as an honorific for others' actions
    • ⇒ see: 2568020 せる 3. auxiliary verb used as an honorific for others' actions
    • ⇐ see: 2568030 在らせられる【あらせられる】 1. to be; to exist
History:
    • A 2018-07-24 05:27:20 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      All has been quiet. I'll close it.
    • A* 2018-06-20 06:07:03 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      Aren't both senses ONLY aux verbs? I suggest going back to my 2010 thought bubble and just having one sense.
    • Refs
      せられる	1551372
      がせられる	185
      をせられる	4036
      とせられる	1673
      はせられる	616
    • Diff
      @@ -8,8 +7,0 @@
      -<pos>&v1;</pos>
      -<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
      -<xref type="see" seq="2568000">られる・4</xref>
      -<misc>&hon;</misc>
      -<s_inf>verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
      -<gloss>to do</gloss>
      -</sense>
      -<sense>
      @@ -17,0 +10 @@
      +<xref type="see" seq="2568000">られる・4</xref>
      @@ -20 +13 @@
      -<s_inf>auxiliary verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
      +<s_inf>used for others' actions</s_inf>
    • A* 2018-06-15 02:33:48 Marcus Richert
    • Comments
      I think these notes need to be expanded on because I don't get the difference between sense 1 and 2 here (esp. as they have the same 
      tags).
      I don't see the case for "extreme honorific" for sense 2 in daijs. (which unfortunately make the two senses even more confusingly 
      similar)
    • Diff
      @@ -10 +10 @@
      -<xref type="see" seq="2567990">られる・4</xref>
      +<xref type="see" seq="2568000">られる・4</xref>
      @@ -12 +12,2 @@
      -<gloss>verb used as an honorific for others' actions</gloss>
      +<s_inf>verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
      +<gloss>to do</gloss>
      @@ -16,0 +18 @@
      +<xref type="see" seq="2568020">せる・3</xref>
      @@ -18 +20,2 @@
      -<gloss>auxiliary verb used as an extreme honorific for others' actions</gloss>
      +<s_inf>auxiliary verb used as an honorific for others' actions</s_inf>
      +<gloss>to do</gloss>
    • A 2010-08-14 01:49:54 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      Let it stand.
    • A* 2010-08-11 03:47:06 Rene Malenfant
    • Comments
      i'm open to any changes
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