jmdict 2012710 Active (id#2319653)
蜩； 茅蜩 [rK] ； 日暮 [rK] ； 日暮らし [sK] ； 日ぐらし [sK] ； 日暮し [sK]
【 ヒグラシ (nokanji)； ひぐらし 】
  1. [n] [uk]
    • evening cicada (Tanna japonensis)
    Cross references:
    • ⇐ see: 2862216 蜩【かなかな】 1. evening cicada (Tanna japonensis)
History:
    • A 2024-10-30 11:07:08 Jim Breen (id#2319653)
    • Comments
      I'm comfortable with this entry, but we may as well have 日ぐらし[sK] in the other one too.
    • A* 2024-10-28 02:55:10 parfait8 (id#2319400)
    • Comments
      my problem with duplicating the kanji forms is that it makes search slightly less immediate
"日ぐらし" search-only form is here and not in the other entry, but results on google are mostly related to the 一日中 sense
we obviously could have "日ぐらし" in both the entries, but only having it in the 一日中 sense entry seems less confusing to me

btw not related to my previous comment but i think 日暮 is [io], in none of my refs
    • A* 2024-10-28 02:39:19 Robin Scott (id#2319397)
    • Comments
      Daijs and nikk combine the two meanings into entry.
With two entries like this, I think it's better to duplicate the kanji form(s) rather than the sense.
    • A* 2024-10-27 00:28:32 parfait8 (id#2319232)
    • Comments
      wouldn't it make more sense if we added the 日- forms to the 日暮らし entry as an additional sense and x-ref it here?
this is how daijs, saito and nikk do it
    • A 2024-08-18 02:37:25 Stephen Kraus (id#2308978)
    • Refs
      Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮
│ ヒグラシの声 │ 9,192 │ 57.4% │ - moving up
│ ひぐらしの声 │ 4,612 │ 28.8% │
│ 蜩の声　　　 │ 1,978 │ 12.4% │
│ 日暮の声　　 │   118 │  0.7% │
│ 日暮らしの声 │    48 │  0.3% │
│ 日ぐらしの声 │    47 │  0.3% │ - add, sK
│ 日暮しの声　 │    20 │  0.1% │ - add, sK
│ 茅蜩の声　　 │     0 │  0.0% │
╰─ーーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯
    • Diff
      @@ -19,3 +19,8 @@
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ひぐらし</reb>
-</r_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>日ぐらし</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>日暮し</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
@@ -24,0 +30,3 @@
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ひぐらし</reb>
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