jmdict 1825770 Active (id#2222099)
思う壺思うつぼ思うツボ思う壷
おもうつぼ
  1. [n]
    • one's wishes
    • one's expectations
    Cross references:
    • ⇐ see: 1433870 壺【つぼ】 4. aim; what one wants; the mark
  2. [n]
    • just as expected
History:
    • A 2023-02-17 10:15:47 Jim Breen (id#2222099)
    • Comments
      The counts reported by the search engines are not considered reliable as indicators of relative frequency.
      We've relaxed the approach to reading restrictions, so just おもうつぼ can be used here.
    • Refs
      おもうつぼ	3744
      おもうツボ	499
    • Diff
      @@ -18,7 +17,0 @@
      -<re_restr>思う壺</re_restr>
      -<re_restr>思うつぼ</re_restr>
      -<re_restr>思う壷</re_restr>
      -</r_ele>
      -<r_ele>
      -<reb>おもうツボ</reb>
      -<re_restr>思うツボ</re_restr>
    • A* 2023-02-17 09:56:38 Brian Krznarich (id#2222097)
    • Comments
      Reordering only.
      
      Noticed the ordering was inconsistent with the entry from 思う壺にはまる.  Cumulatively kana forms outrank the kanji form in n-grams, but if the kana forms are split to hiragana/katakana (思うツボ added in 2012), kanji seems to win easily. All three forms are quite popular on twitter, just did a hand-count for the last 12 hours (see references), and kanji beat both kana forms combined(small sample though).
      
      I see bing counts were cited when last ordered; not sure if the accuracy is there with bing any more to verify, but today's bing seems to agree with the n-grams(at least on the kanji form winning - hiragana/katakana seems like more of a crapshoot).
      
      I know katakana forms are not "needed" for lookup purposes, I'm not sure if they are still being included when statistically relevant, or are just left behind in legacy entries. 壺 as ツボ does seem particularly common.
    • Refs
      n-grams:
      思う壺	53547
      思うツボ	39428
      思うつぼ	31182
      思う壷	7420
      
      
      思う壺 (111 posts in last 12 hours)
      https://twitter.com/search?q=思う壺&src=typed_query&f=live
      思うツボ (48 posts in last 12 hours)
      https://twitter.com/search?q=思うツボ&src=typed_query&f=live
      思うつぼ (53 hits in last 12 hours)
      https://twitter.com/search?q=思うつぼ&src=typed_query&f=live
      
      
      bing:
      +思う壺 7.1 million
      +思うつぼ 3.1 million
      +思うツボ 2.7 million
      
      google ranks similarly-ish, but an order of magnitude fewer results.
    • Diff
      @@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
      +<k_ele>
      +<keb>思う壺</keb>
      +</k_ele>
      @@ -13,3 +15,0 @@
      -<k_ele>
      -<keb>思う壺</keb>
      -</k_ele>
      @@ -17,0 +18 @@
      +<re_restr>思う壺</re_restr>
      @@ -20 +20,0 @@
      -<re_restr>思う壺</re_restr>
    • A 2012-10-15 11:32:53 Jim Breen
    • A* 2012-10-15 03:09:02 Marcus
    • Refs
      ordered after hits (bing)
    • Diff
      @@ -4,6 +4,0 @@
      -<k_ele>
      -<keb>思う壺</keb>
      -</k_ele>
      -<k_ele>
      -<keb>思う壷</keb>
      -</k_ele>
      @@ -16,0 +10,6 @@
      +<k_ele>
      +<keb>思う壷</keb>
      +</k_ele>
      +<k_ele>
      +<keb>思う壺</keb>
      +</k_ele>
      @@ -18,0 +18,7 @@
      +<re_restr>思うつぼ</re_restr>
      +<re_restr>思う壷</re_restr>
      +<re_restr>思う壺</re_restr>
      +</r_ele>
      +<r_ele>
      +<reb>おもうツボ</reb>
      +<re_restr>思うツボ</re_restr>
    • A* 2012-10-15 00:49:22 huixing
    • Comments
      add 思うツボ
    • Diff
      @@ -12,0 +12,3 @@
      +</k_ele>
      +<k_ele>
      +<keb>思うツボ</keb>
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