jmdict 1044870 Active (id#2056143)
クリスマスケーキ； クリスマス・ケーキ
  1. [n]
    • Christmas cake
    Cross references:
    • ⇐ see: 2625180 聖菓【せいか】 1. Christmas cake
  2. [n] [joc,dated]
    • unmarried woman above the age of 25
History:
    • A 2020-01-14 02:52:59 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      On reflection I don't think this one is likely to be "id". I'll close it.
    • A* 2019-12-27 04:24:46 Jim Breen
    • A 2019-12-27 04:24:19 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      I'd like to move the "id" discussion to the editors' list. I'll close this now and reopen to 
be visible for possible additions.
    • A* 2019-12-27 01:00:12 Robin Scott
    • Comments
      I thought it was our policy to only use id on expressions (see 狼煙, 月並み, 電池切れ).
The majority of those 218 entries are expressions, but there are a lot on that list (e.g. 波, 空気 難民) that I don't think are idioms by any definition.
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I agree there probably is an argument for dropping the id tag.
    • A* 2019-12-26 23:00:01 Rene Malenfant
    • Comments
      i agree that this should not be marked as an idiom and we have had some short back and forths and compound nouns being idioms in the comments of various entries, but i agree that this should be raised on the mailing list

we should also consider what value the [id] label actually has.  since people can disagree on what an "idiom" is, it's not clear why we even need this tag.  it is usually pretty clear when a gloss does not match the literal meaning of the individual terms. i'm not sure why we need to tell people "this is an idiom" or not.  to my knowledge, i've never seen another kokugo, english dictionary or J-E that bothers with an idiom tag
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