jmdict 1269390 Active (id#2355147)
遅れを取る [news2,nf25] ； 後れを取る； 遅れをとる [sK] ； 後れをとる [sK]
【 おくれをとる [news2,nf25] 】
  1. [exp,v5r]
    • to fall behind
    • to lag behind
    • to be outdistanced
    • to be beaten
Conjugations
History:
    • A 2025-12-24 05:16:00 Jim Breen (id#2355147)
    • Comments
      Seems OK.
    • A* 2025-12-24 03:13:34 Robin Scott (id#2355140)
    • Comments
      I understand the reasoning but I still think "to be beaten" works in some contexts, e.g. in the sense of being beaten to the punch. Also, "遅れを取っている" could be translated as "being beaten (in some aspect)".
    • Refs
      gg5
luminous: だれにも後れを取りたくない I don't want to be beaten by anybody.
    • Diff
      @@ -29,0 +30 @@
+<gloss>to be outdistanced</gloss>
@@ -31 +31,0 @@
-<gloss>to be defeated</gloss>
    • A* 2025-12-22 06:35:04 (id#2354969)
    • Comments
      I meant to say that I wrote the previous thinking about a fistfight but somehow forgot
but yes, I think "defeat" is too definite, that the fight is still in progress
it will *probably* lead to a defeat though
    • A* 2025-12-22 06:20:26 (id#2354968)
    • Comments
      I think I understand huixing's argument, that these two glossses are not accurate
accurate would be whatever the opposite of "to have the upper hand" is, i.e. that you are "down on points" so to speak,
that you look like you're losing, but _have not lost yet_ and can in fact regain the lead, to make an upset
(compare the situation to a race where you are 100m behind the lead runner)
I'd prefer something like "to be losing" or "to be on the verge of defeat" to these two if there are no better options around
    • A 2025-12-22 03:51:23 Jim Breen (id#2354946)
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