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jmdict 2015040 Active (id: 2332504)

ざんす
1. [exp] [abbr,arch,pol]
▶ to be
▶ to exist
Cross references:
  ⇒ see: 2253040 【ござんす】 1. to be; to exist
2. [cop] [arch,pol]
▶ be
▶ is

Conjugations


History:
5. A 2025-02-12 06:23:21  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
I've looked at this from time to time and found it too hard. I guess it may as well be out there.
4. A* 2024-12-17 19:02:27  Sombrero1 <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
According to nikkoku:
"「ござんす」から転じた「おざんす」の変化した語か。"

ざんす can serve a function like ある as a verb meaning "to exist, to be" as a 自サ特活 verb. It can also be used as a subsidiary (補助動詞) with で, but I think that should be a seperate entry, given it is even necessary.

Also a 補助動詞/助動詞 (JMdict doesn't distinguish them, does it?), but should be in combination with で like the others, right? Because it isn't tagged as 連語. I'm not all too sure about the plain ざんす being used as a copula, maybe I'm mistunderstanding this. Nikkoku example sentences:
...「いっそお気の毒ざんすねへ」
...「私なぞはうそはきついきらいざんす」
What confuses me is that there isn't any record of でざんす like there is with the other で forms of ござんす, ござります, ございます etc.



ざんす:「ざんせ・ざんし・ざんす・ざんす・ざんすれ・◯」
サ変: 「せ・し・す・する・すれ・せよ」

I see there exists a tag "verb unspecified" is this ever used? From looking at how many entries have that tag (0), I assumed it isn't. So I tagged it as [exp]. But I think a tag for such cases might be useful.
  Comments:
This seems rather complicated. I would be in favor of there being a tag for "special verb conjugation".
  Diff:
@@ -8 +8,3 @@
-<pos>&aux-v;</pos>
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2253040">ござんす</xref>
+<misc>&abbr;</misc>
@@ -9,0 +12 @@
+<misc>&pol;</misc>
@@ -10,0 +14,8 @@
+<gloss>to exist</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&cop;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<misc>&pol;</misc>
+<gloss>be</gloss>
+<gloss>is</gloss>
3. A 2024-12-16 23:41:08  Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
  Comments:
Splitting. Not sure of the POS here.
  Diff:
@@ -6,3 +5,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ざます</reb>
2. A* 2024-12-16 18:14:00  Sombrero1 <...address hidden...>
  Refs:
SMK on ざんす: 
ざん・す
   ①(自・特殊型)
     〔「ござんす」の略。元来は江戸の遊女の言葉であったとされる〕「ございます」の古風な表現。
   ②(助動・特殊型)
     「でございます」に当たる古風な丁寧語。

Sankoku on ざます:
ざま・す⦅助動(マス型)⦆
  〔古風・女〕⇨ざあます。
  「私、だめなん━・そう(で)━」

and ざあます:
ざあま・す⦅助動(マス型)⦆〔活用は「せ・しょ|し|す|す|○|○」〕
  〔古風・女〕でございます。ざます。

Other kokugos point to ざあます as well. All the while Daijr and nikk say it's derived from ざんす not from ざあます < ございます.
  Comments:
I think they should be split. Maybe split ざます and put it in an entry with ざあます
1. A 2003-12-03 00:00:00 
  Comments:
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