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A 2024-12-19 00:07:29 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I think we should hide 戯談 and drop the old readings. |
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@@ -12 +12 @@
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -23,10 +22,0 @@
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>ぎだん</reb>
-<re_restr>戯談</re_restr>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
-</r_ele>
-<r_ele>
-<reb>げだん</reb>
-<re_restr>戯談</re_restr>
-<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf> |
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A* 2024-12-18 21:33:43 Sombrero1 <...address hidden...>
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Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 冗談 │ 2.537.931 │ 99.7% │
│ 戯談 │ 577 │ 0.0% │Nikk only ; would maybe keep as an [rK] for the [ok] readings
│ 串戯 │ 257 │ 0.0% │Nikk only ; [sK]
│ 串戲 │ 50 │ 0.0% │Can't find this anywhere, is 戲 just another version of 戯? ; drop
│ じょうだん │ 4.374 │ 0.2% │
│ ぎだん │ 587 │ 0.0% │
│ げだん │ 1.849 │ 0.1% │skeptical on whether this should stay, according to nikkoku this is only "funny/amusing story"
╰─ーーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯ |
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May or may not also just drop the [ok] aspect of this entry, this is all based entirely on nikk. I personally don't mind them being here though. |
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@@ -11,0 +12 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -15,3 +16 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>串戲</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf> |
| 10. |
A 2021-10-28 20:01:20 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2021-10-28 17:02:14 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
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冗談を言って 28720
笑談を言って No matches |
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I think we should drop the 笑談 note. It's only in meikyo as "もと「笑談」とも". |
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@@ -37,2 +37 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2589580">笑談・しょうだん・2</xref>
-<s_inf>じょうだん is sometimes written 笑談</s_inf>
+<gloss>joke</gloss>
@@ -40 +38,0 @@
-<gloss>joke</gloss> |
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A* 2021-10-27 08:29:02 Marcus Richert <...address hidden...>
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冗談の 90771
冗談のよう 29469
冗談のつもり 24113
冗談のような 17330
冗談のつもりで 13173
冗談のように 8222
冗談のつもりだっ 5359
冗談のつもりだった 5317
冗談のつもりで書い 3131
冗談の通じ 3041
冗談のつもりで書いた 2961 |
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I don't think this is an adjective |
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-<pos>&adj-no;</pos> |
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A 2011-03-10 22:09:19 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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I can't see rejected entries (unless I ask for them.) |
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A* 2011-03-10 19:28:45 Scott
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another variant. And I don't understand why I can see the 3 rejected entries. |
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@@ -15,0 +15,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>串戲</keb> |
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A 2010-10-31 01:00:26 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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accidentally rolled back jim's changes |
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@@ -22,0 +22,10 @@
+<r_ele>
+<reb>ぎだん</reb>
+<re_restr>戯談</re_restr>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
+<r_ele>
+<reb>げだん</reb>
+<re_restr>戯談</re_restr>
+<re_inf>&ok;</re_inf>
+</r_ele>
@@ -26,1 +36,1 @@
-<s_inf>sometimes written 笑談</s_inf>
+<s_inf>じょうだん is sometimes written 笑談</s_inf>
@@ -29,0 +39,1 @@
+<gloss>funny story</gloss> |
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A 2010-10-26 07:05:34 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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A* 2010-10-26 07:04:09 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
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@@ -25,0 +25,2 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2589580">笑談・しょうだん・2</xref>
+<s_inf>sometimes written 笑談</s_inf> |
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A* 2010-10-25 20:53:33 Rene Malenfant <...address hidden...>
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yeah, i'm not buying it. 笑談 should have its own entry. and nikkoku lists its
earliest usage as the 15th century, so it's not a soseki-ism
those aren't ateji, btw. |
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@@ -11,4 +11,0 @@
-<keb>笑談</keb>
-<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
@@ -16,1 +12,0 @@
-<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -20,1 +15,0 @@
-<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
@@ -31,1 +25,0 @@
-<s_inf>笑談 is an ateji created by 夏目漱石</s_inf> |
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A* 2010-10-25 18:52:28 Scott
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nikk |
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笑談 is listed as しょうだん in both daij and koj so this might be a mistake. |
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@@ -12,0 +12,9 @@
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>戯談</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>串戯</keb>
+<ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> |