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子曰く
【しいわく；しのたまわく】

[exp]
《at the beginning of chapters in the Analects of Confucius》
▶ the Master said ...
▶ Confucius said ...

History:

7.	A 2024-12-04 23:15:46 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
6.	A* 2024-12-04 20:31:11 Robin Scott <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	https://www.yellowbridge.com/onlinelit/analects01.php
	Comments:	Not a noun. Not every chapter. English translations of the Analects use "said". I don't think [form] and [rk] are appropriate here. I don't think the x-ref is needed.
	Diff:	@@ -12 +11,0 @@ -<re_inf>&rk;</re_inf> @@ -16,6 +15,3 @@ -<pos>&n;</pos> -<xref type="see" seq="1738760">論語</xref> -<misc>&form;</misc> -<s_inf>used at the beginning of each chapter in the Analects of Confucius</s_inf> -<gloss>the master says...</gloss> -<gloss>Confucius says...</gloss> +<s_inf>at the beginning of chapters in the Analects of Confucius</s_inf> +<gloss>the Master said ...</gloss> +<gloss>Confucius said ...</gloss>
5.	A 2024-12-02 03:15:20 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Comments:	True.
4.	A* 2024-12-02 03:14:27 Marcus Richert
	Comments:	Not an explanatory gloss.
	Diff:	@@ -18,0 +19 @@ +<s_inf>used at the beginning of each chapter in the Analects of Confucius</s_inf> @@ -21 +21,0 @@ -<gloss g_type="expl">used at the beginning of each chapter in the Analects of Confucius</gloss>
3.	A 2024-12-02 00:01:43 Jim Breen <...address hidden...>
	Diff:	@@ -21 +21 @@ -<gloss g_type="expl">Expression used at the beginning of texts in the analects of Confucius</gloss> +<gloss g_type="expl">used at the beginning of each chapter in the Analects of Confucius</gloss>
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2.	A* 2024-12-01 19:09:43 Sombrero1 <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 子曰く　　　 │ 12.455 │ 95.0% │ │ しいわく　　 │ 593 │ 4.5% │ │ しのたまわく │ 68 │ 0.5% │[rk] ╰─ーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯
	Comments:	I'm sorry, I might need glasses....
	Diff:	@@ -11 +11 @@ -<reb>しのとまわく</reb> +<reb>しのたまわく</reb>
1.	A* 2024-12-01 16:51:53 Sombrero1 <...address hidden...>
	Refs:	Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 子曰く　　　 │ 12.455 │ 95.5% │Nikkoku only │ しいわく　　 │ 593 │ 4.5% │ │ しのとまわく │ 0 │ 0.0% │I would prefer to keep it as [rk] instead of [sk] ╰─ーーーーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ https://intojapanwaraku.com/rock/culture-rock/64188/#toc-3 About いわく vs のとまわく: https://note.com/yajul/n/n62badc185637 This word is always used as an introductory means to the analects of Confucius (論語), and means as much as "the master says/Confucius says" In 子曰く the 子 stands for 孔子.
	Comments:	Came across this word in the 2224393 discussion, rather high ngram count despite the lack of refs so I thought it might be worth a shot. Does this work as [exp]? I think it would qualify as [form].

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