jmdict 2261960 Active (id#1058134)
零し溢し翻し [io]
こぼし
  1. [n]
    • waste-water container (tea ceremony)
    Cross references:
    • ⇒ see: 2261970 建水 1. waste-water container (tea ceremony)
    • ⇒ see: 1737900 水翻し【みずこぼし】 1. waste-water container (tea ceremony); slop jar; slop basin
History:
    • A 2011-02-18 11:37:08 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      Messy. OK, let's leave it the way you had it.
    • A* 2011-02-18 06:15:29 Rene Malenfant
    • Comments
      i can go either way.  if we're going to include the meanings that stem from the 
      -masu stem version of こぼす, should it be one sense combining all three 
      senses of こぼす? or should we have [1] spilling [2] grumbling [3] letting 
      emotion show [4] waste-water container.  if we're going to combine all three 
      senses into one, i think there at least be a note (and an x-ref) explaining why 
      three disparate meanings are combined into one sense
    • A* 2011-02-18 00:17:46 Jim Breen
    • Comments
      So you don't think there's a role for a 零し entry coming from the verb 零す?  WWWJDIC's text-glosser version generates one, then combines them, so we get "零し 《verb stem》 零す(P); 溢す; 翻す 【こぼす】 (v5s,vt) (1) to spill; (2) to grumble; (P); 零し; 溢し; 翻し; 翻 【こぼし】 ; (n) (1) (See 零す) spilling; grumbling; (2) (See 建水) waste-water container (tea ceremony); ED"
      Maybe that's all that's needed.
    • Diff
      @@ -23,0 +23,1 @@
      +<xref type="see" seq="1737900">水翻し・みずこぼし</xref>
    • A* 2011-02-17 21:51:18 Rene Malenfant
    • Comments
      the first sense is obviously correct, but i think it makes a bit of a mess of things 
      (e.g., blending all of the different senses of こぼす into a single sense here)
    • Diff
      @@ -15,0 +15,1 @@
      +<ke_inf>&io;</ke_inf>
      @@ -21,10 +22,0 @@
      -<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す</xref>
      -<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・1</xref>
      -<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・2</xref>
      -<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・1</xref>
      -<xref type="see" seq="1557640">零す・2</xref>
      -<gloss>spilling</gloss>
      -<gloss>grumbling</gloss>
      -</sense>
      -<sense>
      -<pos>&n;</pos>
    • A 2008-04-01 00:00:00
    • Comments
      Entry created
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