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<entry eid="2320789" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict"> <ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp> <ent_seq>2863276</ent_seq> <k_ele> <keb>湾処</keb> <ke_inf>&ateji;</ke_inf> <ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> </k_ele> <r_ele> <reb>ワンド</reb> <re_nokanji/> </r_ele> <r_ele> <reb>わんど</reb> </r_ele> <sense> <pos>&n;</pos> <misc>&uk;</misc> <gloss>(riverine) lagoon</gloss> <gloss>fluvial lagoon</gloss> </sense> <history> <audit time="2024-11-09 05:24:49" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_detl>split from 1919720</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2024-11-09 06:15:23" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> </audit> <audit time="2024-11-09 23:59:17" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid> <upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>we need to include the source word, no? jpeiki has "wa-un-to" but I'm not immediately finding this attested in any reliable source.</upd_refs> </audit> <audit time="2024-11-10 00:44:05" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>We don't have to include the source term, especially if the transliteration isn't clear.</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2024-11-10 02:25:57" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid> <upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>This doesn't sit well with me considering that we use the tag when the first gloss is the same as the source word. I don't think leaving it out should be open to interpretation (even if it's obvious given the context) I would prefer to not include the lsrc tag at all in cases like these.</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2024-11-10 02:54:17" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>parfait8</upd_name> <upd_detl>jawiki: "入り江や川の淀み、淵などを「わんど」と呼ぶ地方があり、アイヌ語起源の倭語であるとする説。アイヌ語解釈では次のような意味になる。◆ワンド＝wa-un-to＝岸・にある・沼。" the impression i got reading this was "和語 influenced by the ainu term" rather than a 音訳 - seems just like a theory anyway (i don't see it in daijr/s)</upd_detl> <upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーー─┬────────┬───────╮ │ 湾処　 │ 807 │ 0.8% │ add (daijr/s, jawiki) │ ワンド │ 96,611 │ 92.7% │ │ わんど │ 6,802 │ 6.5% │ ╰─ーーー─┴────────┴───────╯ Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーー─┬────┬───────╮ │ ワンドの水 │ 62 │ 74.7% │ │ わんどの水 │ 21 │ 25.3% │ │ 湾処の水　 │ 0 │ 0.0% │ ╰─ーーーーー─┴────┴───────╯ Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーー─┬────┬───────╮ │ 川のワンド │ 62 │100.0% │ │ 川の湾処　 │ 0 │ 0.0% │ │ 川のわんど │ 0 │ 0.0% │ ╰─ーーーーー─┴────┴───────╯</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,5 @@ +&lt;k_ele&gt; +&lt;keb&gt;湾処&lt;/keb&gt; +&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;ateji;&lt;/ke_inf&gt; +&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt; +&lt;/k_ele&gt; @@ -5,0 +11,4 @@ +&lt;re_nokanji/&gt; +&lt;/r_ele&gt; +&lt;r_ele&gt; +&lt;reb&gt;わんど&lt;/reb&gt; @@ -8,0 +18 @@ +&lt;misc&gt;&amp;uk;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2024-11-10 03:40:11" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Best to drop that Ainu source.</upd_detl> <upd_refs>KOD: わんど【湾処】 〔入り江〕 an inlet; a cove; 〔川のよどみ〕 a backwater.</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -19 +18,0 @@ -&lt;lsource xml:lang="ain"/&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> </history> </entry>