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<entry eid="2156261" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict"> <ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp> <ent_seq>2100860</ent_seq> <k_ele> <keb>こちらの話</keb> </k_ele> <k_ele> <keb>此方の話</keb> <ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf> </k_ele> <r_ele> <reb>こちらのはなし</reb> </r_ele> <sense> <pos>&exp;</pos> <gloss>matter being discussed (e.g. in a private conversation)</gloss> </sense> <sense> <pos>&exp;</pos> <gloss>our side of the story (in contrast to another's version)</gloss> </sense> <history> <audit time="2006-09-06 00:00:00" stat="A"> <upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2012-10-19 15:56:03" stat="D" unap="true"> <upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid> <upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>current meaning is wrong, not in any dictionaries</upd_refs> </audit> <audit time="2012-10-21 23:18:05" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>I can't trace the arrival of this. Paul Blay amended it in 2008 (adding 此方の話) and added the こっちの話 version. He said of the latter " I hear this one more often because it's more colloquial." I suspect the main meaning is "this topic" or "this item of conversation." Time for an NSJ check. It's very common.</upd_detl> <upd_refs>GG5: 彼はこちらの話に乗ってこなかった． He 「refused to be drawn ［wouldn't join us］． ｜ We couldn't get him on board.</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -16,1 +16,0 @@ -&lt;xref type="see" seq="2262990"&gt;こっちの話&lt;/xref&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2012-10-22 00:25:03" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name> <upd_detl>I think it's just a variant of "私の話" (which gets 9x the hits on bing)</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2012-10-25 01:16:57" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>This is sort-of the outcome of the discussions. I'll approve it to get it out there, then reopen.</upd_detl> <upd_refs>Discussion on SLJ group.</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -16,1 +16,5 @@ -&lt;gloss&gt;talking to oneself&lt;/gloss&gt; +&lt;gloss&gt;matter being discussed (e.g. in a private conversation)&lt;/gloss&gt; +&lt;/sense&gt; +&lt;sense&gt; +&lt;pos&gt;&amp;exp;&lt;/pos&gt; +&lt;gloss&gt;our side of the story (in contrast to another's version)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2012-10-25 01:17:21" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Reopening.</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2012-10-31 22:42:27" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Closing.</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2021-11-06 06:30:33" stat="A"> <upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid> <upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>こちらの話 18159 此方の話 153</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@ +&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> </history> </entry>