<entry eid="2054535" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2028960</ent_seq>
<r_ele>
<reb>や</reb>
<re_pri>spec1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&prt;</pos>
<s_inf>used for non-exhaustive lists related to a specific time and place</s_inf>
<gloss>such things as ...</gloss>
<gloss>and ... and</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&prt;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2018190" sno="1" xk="や否や">や否や[1]</xref>
<s_inf>after the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf>
<gloss>the minute (that) ...</gloss>
<gloss>no sooner than ...</gloss>
<gloss>as soon as</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&cop;</pos>
<xref type="see" seq="2089020" xr="だ">だ</xref>
<dial>&ksb;</dial>
<gloss>be</gloss>
<gloss>is</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<s_inf>punctuational exclamation in haiku, renga, etc.</s_inf>
<gloss>o</gloss>
<gloss>oh</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<s_inf>interjection expressing surprise</s_inf>
<gloss>huh</gloss>
<gloss>what</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<misc>♂</misc>
<gloss>hi</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>∫</pos>
<misc>&arch;</misc>
<gloss>yes</gloss>
<gloss>what?</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&prt;</pos>
<misc>&arch;</misc>
<s_inf>indicates a question</s_inf>
<gloss>yes?</gloss>
<gloss>no?</gloss>
<gloss>is it?</gloss>
<gloss>isn't it?</gloss>
</sense>
<history>
<audit time="2005-03-05 00:00:00" stat="A">
<upd_detl>Entry created</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-05-31 11:50:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus</upd_name>
<upd_refs>daijr, daijs
daijs doesn't mention the greeting (which I put down as "hi")
being specifically male: "突然または偶然に出会った人に呼びかけるときに発
する語。「―、しばらく」", but daijr does.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -24,0 +24,9 @@
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<gloss>interjection expressing surprise</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<misc>&male;</misc>
+<gloss>hi</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
@@ -29,0 +38,6 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&int;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<gloss>yes</gloss>
+<gloss>what?</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2012-06-15 02:16:04" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-10-06 20:54:33" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Curtis Naito</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I sometimes see "ya" used in place of "ka" in older Japanese. For example Daijirin says, "体言およびそれに準ずる語に付く。「…やもしれない」の形で，軽い疑いの意を表す。 「近いうちに大地震がある－も知れない」" Also, on ejje.weblio.jp there is a sentence, "中学課程の範囲内において如何にして英語を完全に教授すべきや How best to teach English within the limits of the middle-school curriculum" which uses "subeki ya" instead of "subeki ka".</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -41,0 +42,5 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&prt;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<gloss>indicates a question</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2014-10-06 21:43:12" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-03-06 04:29:21" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Curtis Naito</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>GG5</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17,0 +18 @@
+<gloss>as soon as</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-03-06 07:11:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-05-14 20:56:56" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -16 +16,2 @@
-<gloss>(after the dictionary form of a verb) the minute (that) ...</gloss>
+<s_inf>after the dictionary form of a verb</s_inf>
+<gloss>the minute (that) ...</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-05-31 09:02:34" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -15 +15 @@
-<xref type="see" seq="2018190">や否や</xref>
+<xref type="see" seq="2018190">や否や・1</xref></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-05 12:17:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>sense 1,3,4: moving usage note to [note]
sense 3: I've seen "や" translated as "o" (Basho's 松島
haiku)
sense 6: Aligning with だ. Really this isn't ksb but very
widely used [western Japanese]</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10 +10,2 @@
-<gloss>such things as (non-exhaustive list related to a specific time and place)</gloss>
+<s_inf>used for non-exhaustive lists related to a specific time and place</s_inf>
+<gloss>such things as ...</gloss>
@@ -23 +24,3 @@
-<gloss>punctuational exclamation in haiku, renga, etc.</gloss>
+<s_inf>punctuational exclamation in haiku, renga, etc.</s_inf>
+<gloss>o</gloss>
+<gloss>oh</gloss>
@@ -27 +30,3 @@
-<gloss>interjection expressing surprise</gloss>
+<s_inf>interjection expressing surprise</s_inf>
+<gloss>huh</gloss>
+<gloss>what</gloss>
@@ -35 +40 @@
-<pos>&aux;</pos>
+<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
@@ -37,0 +43 @@
+<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf>
@@ -39 +45,2 @@
-<gloss>plain copula</gloss>
+<gloss>be</gloss>
+<gloss>is</gloss>
@@ -50 +57,2 @@
-<gloss>indicates a question</gloss>
+<s_inf>indicates a question</s_inf>
+<gloss>?</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-17 05:09:40" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-18 07:00:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Aligining with か.
I realized by the way that we only have cop-da on very
few entries (だ,そうだ and ニダ, and I'm the one adding it
one ニダ). Is cop-da ok here? Are there conjugation
tables somewhere for this which complicates things?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -57 +57,4 @@
-<gloss>?</gloss>
+<gloss>yes?</gloss>
+<gloss>no?</gloss>
+<gloss>is it?</gloss>
+<gloss>isn't it?</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-20 05:39:05" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I guess it's not a problem here.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-20 10:44:30" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Moved "be; is" sense 6 to place 3.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +23,8 @@
+<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
+<xref type="see" seq="2089020">だ・1</xref>
+<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf>
+<dial>&ksb;</dial>
+<gloss>be</gloss>
+<gloss>is</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
@@ -40,8 +47,0 @@
-<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2089020">だ・1</xref>
-<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf>
-<dial>&ksb;</dial>
-<gloss>be</gloss>
-<gloss>is</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-04-24 08:59:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>GG5 has a sense which it describes as "軽く言い放つ" and for which it gives two examples:
もうどうなったっていいや. Hey, I don't care either way.
そりゃいい. 一緒に行こうや. Good idea. Let's go together.
I don't think we cover this, and it seems to match the Tanaka sentence tagged for sense 4: "これじゃあ、僕は一生結婚なんて出来やしないや。 I guess I'm never going to get married."
Should we add another sense? Or tweak sense 5?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-05-13 19:07:52" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>this is a copula, but not cop-da</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-05-14 03:17:59" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I agree. We don't have a "cop" PoS, I guess "unc" with the note works?</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23 +23 @@
-<pos>&cop-da;</pos>
+<pos>&unc;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-05-14 04:00:42" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Should we mabe consider changing cop-da to
cop? What's the point of specifying it's "-da"
in the PoS in the first place?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-05-14 04:25:15" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Also though changing the PoS abbreviation from [cop-da] to [cop] might be ideal, I wouldn't have a problem redefining [cop-da] to
mean "the da copula" to "copula (such as the da copula)" - it's all about how we choose to describe it, isn't it?</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-06 04:40:22" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'm closing this off to reduce clutter, then reopening. I intend to get to adding some extra POS. etc. tags soon, and it can be fixed up then.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-06 04:40:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Reopening.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2019-12-25 20:14:29" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Whew!</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -23 +23 @@
-<pos>&unc;</pos>
+<pos>&cop;</pos>
@@ -25 +24,0 @@
-<s_inf>plain copula</s_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
</history>
</entry>
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