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<entry eid="2226815" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict"> <ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp> <ent_seq>1564580</ent_seq> <k_ele> <keb>はさみ切る</keb> </k_ele> <k_ele> <keb>挟み切る</keb> </k_ele> <k_ele> <keb>剪み切る</keb> </k_ele> <r_ele> <reb>はさみきる</reb> </r_ele> <sense> <pos>&v5r;</pos> <pos>&vt;</pos> <misc>&rare;</misc> <gloss>to snip (off)</gloss> <gloss>to nip off</gloss> <gloss>to clip off</gloss> <gloss>to trim off</gloss> </sense> <history> <audit time="2022-11-10 10:55:28" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>剪み切る 0 0.0% &lt; GG5 挟み切る 79 18.0% &lt;- ルミナス はさみきる 0 0.0% はさみ切る 361 82.0% &lt;- Unidic, ルミナス example</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -5 +5 @@ -&lt;keb&gt;剪み切る&lt;/keb&gt; +&lt;keb&gt;はさみ切る&lt;/keb&gt; @@ -8,0 +9,4 @@ +&lt;/k_ele&gt; +&lt;k_ele&gt; +&lt;keb&gt;剪み切る&lt;/keb&gt; +&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2022-11-11 10:33:48" stat="A"> <upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid> <upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20 @@ +&lt;gloss&gt;to snip (off)&lt;/gloss&gt; @@ -21,2 +22 @@ -&lt;gloss&gt;to snip&lt;/gloss&gt; -&lt;gloss&gt;to clip&lt;/gloss&gt; +&lt;gloss&gt;to clip off&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2023-03-29 14:21:38" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>So 剪み is an old/alt form of 鋏　(with 金 radical), and. 鋏む・剪む already means "to clip with scissors". So what is 剪み切る supposed to mean... I find the whole thing quite suspicious, but I guess [sK] is good enough (no ngrams, scant online evidence). This is one of these scenarios where a "word" seems to exist only because Japanese people like to drop their particles. We don't *have* to mention that this "verb" is a rare formulation of a super-common construction はさみで切る (which で ), but it seems like it would be a nice thing to do... not in sankoku in any form.</upd_detl> <upd_refs>剪み切る no matches ハサミで切る 9068 59.2% はさみで切る 5730 37.4% 剪み切って No matches 剪みで切って No matches 挟み切って 0 0.0% はさみ切って 55 0.2% ハサミ切って 30 0.1% 挟みで切って 124 0.4% はさみで切って 13763 41.6% ハサミで切って 19113 57.8% はさみ切る 361 2.4% ハサミ切る 39 0.3% 挟みで切る 32 0.2% 挟み切る 79 0.5%</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20,2 @@ +&lt;misc&gt;&amp;rare;&lt;/misc&gt; +&lt;s_inf&gt;shortened form of the common はさみで切る&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2023-03-29 14:25:38" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Forgot [sK]</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -12 +12 @@ -&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt; +&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2023-03-29 14:26:52" stat="D" unap="true"> <upd_name>Brian Krznarich</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>(sorry for the double-post, the whole intention was to keep my edit, and secondarily vote to delete) ルミネ and GG5 notwithstanding, if there isn't other evidence that this is a "word", I don't think we want to treat every occurrence of a dropped を、で、が、の etc. as a "word" (especially when rare). Perhaps I have misread/mis-researched this term, but this is what it appears to me to be. If it stays, I stand by my suggestion that this have a [note] giving the common form (not sure of the optimal wording). We can't xref, because ハサミで切る would never pass an obviousness test(nor do I think it should).</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2023-03-29 20:06:42" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Welcome to the interesting world of 複合動詞. Yes, it's rare but there is no evidence it's an abbreviation of はさみで切る.</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -21 +20,0 @@ -&lt;s_inf&gt;shortened form of the common はさみで切る&lt;/s_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2023-03-29 20:09:46" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>剪み切る is in daijr, koj, gg5, and mentioned in shinmeikai</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -12 +11,0 @@ -&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2023-03-29 20:13:31" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Thanks. I meant to remove that.</upd_detl> </audit> </history> </entry>