jmdict 1475330 Active (id#2319612)
<entry eid="2319612" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict"> <ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp> <ent_seq>1475330</ent_seq> <k_ele> <keb>白鳥</keb> <ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri> <ke_pri>news1</ke_pri> <ke_pri>nf15</ke_pri> </k_ele> <r_ele> <reb>はくちょう</reb> <re_pri>ichi1</re_pri> <re_pri>news1</re_pri> <re_pri>nf15</re_pri> </r_ele> <r_ele> <reb>ハクチョウ</reb> <re_nokanji/> </r_ele> <sense> <pos>&n;</pos> <gloss>swan (Cygnus spp.)</gloss> </sense> <sense> <pos>&n;</pos> <gloss>white bird</gloss> </sense> <history> <audit time="2013-11-12 07:47:41" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>rene</upd_uid> <upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>general name according to all sources</upd_detl> <upd_refs>koj, diaj, wiki, yahoo enc, etc.</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -24,1 +24,1 @@ -&lt;gloss&gt;swan (Cygnus Bechstein, Cygnus ssp.)&lt;/gloss&gt; +&lt;gloss&gt;swan (Cygnus spp.)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2013-11-12 11:37:46" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> </audit> <audit time="2016-11-08 16:45:54" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>johan</upd_uid> <upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>jwiki</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -21,0 +22,4 @@ +&lt;r_ele&gt; +&lt;reb&gt;ハクチョウ&lt;/reb&gt; +&lt;re_nokanji/&gt; +&lt;/r_ele&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2016-11-09 02:05:04" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> </audit> <audit time="2022-09-29 04:26:59" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Opencooper</upd_name> <upd_detl>The refs have this as two entries: * 白鳥(はくちょう) – swan; cygnet * 白鳥(しらとり; しろとり) – 1. white bird 2. swan</upd_detl> <upd_refs>daijs, gg5, etc.</upd_refs> </audit> <audit time="2022-09-29 05:46:38" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>Our 2/3 merging rules are a bit more aggressive than many references.</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -30,0 +31,2 @@ +&lt;stagr&gt;しろとり&lt;/stagr&gt; +&lt;stagr&gt;しらとり&lt;/stagr&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2022-09-29 07:03:43" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Opencooper</upd_name> <upd_detl>Hmm, the sense orders aren't the same, but okay. Moving more common reading first.</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@ -&lt;reb&gt;しろとり&lt;/reb&gt; +&lt;reb&gt;しらとり&lt;/reb&gt; @@ -20 +20 @@ -&lt;reb&gt;しらとり&lt;/reb&gt; +&lt;reb&gt;しろとり&lt;/reb&gt; @@ -28,0 +29 @@ +&lt;gloss&gt;cygnet&lt;/gloss&gt; @@ -30,0 +32 @@ +&lt;stagr&gt;しらとり&lt;/stagr&gt; @@ -32 +33,0 @@ -&lt;stagr&gt;しらとり&lt;/stagr&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2022-09-29 22:00:45" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> </audit> <audit time="2024-10-25 21:54:51" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid> <upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_refs>Shinmeikai leads with our second sense (羽の白い鳥) for both はくちょう and しらとり. I think we can drop the sense restrictions. I don't see しろとり in the smaller kokugos or JEs. Probably okay to tag it [rk].</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -20,0 +21 @@ +&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;rk;&lt;/re_inf&gt; @@ -32,2 +32,0 @@ -&lt;stagr&gt;しらとり&lt;/stagr&gt; -&lt;stagr&gt;しろとり&lt;/stagr&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2024-10-26 01:55:02" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid> <upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>For aesthetic reasons, I'd support splitting out しらとり/しろとり. I'm not fond of this sort of merge when there are [nokanji] readings. I don't think "cygnet" is needed as a gloss. We don't have "puppy" for 犬.</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -30 +29,0 @@ -&lt;gloss&gt;cygnet&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2024-10-26 02:30:40" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid> <upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>In that case, my vote would be to just hide ハクチョウ.</upd_detl> <upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts ╭─ーーーーーーーー─┬───────┬───────╮ │ ハクチョウの雛  │ 453 │ 11.6% │ │ 白鳥の雛     │ 3,455 │ 88.4% │ ├─ーーーーーーーー─┼───────┼───────┤ │ ハクチョウが飛来 │ 645 │ 7.8% │ │ 白鳥が飛来    │ 7,618 │ 92.2% │ ├─ーーーーーーーー─┼───────┼───────┤ │ ハクチョウの飛来 │ 615 │ 8.1% │ │ 白鳥の飛来    │ 6,948 │ 91.9% │ ╰─ーーーーーーーー─┴───────┴───────╯</upd_refs> </audit> <audit time="2024-10-28 06:52:02" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>I'll go along with the split. I'll approve and reopen.</upd_detl> <upd_refs>GG5, etc. Daijisen</upd_refs> <upd_diff>@@ -17,7 +16,0 @@ -&lt;reb&gt;しらとり&lt;/reb&gt; -&lt;/r_ele&gt; -&lt;r_ele&gt; -&lt;reb&gt;しろとり&lt;/reb&gt; -&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;rk;&lt;/re_inf&gt; -&lt;/r_ele&gt; -&lt;r_ele&gt; @@ -30,4 +22,0 @@ -&lt;/sense&gt; -&lt;sense&gt; -&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt; -&lt;gloss&gt;white-feathered bird&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2024-10-28 06:52:16" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> </audit> <audit time="2024-10-30 03:19:14" stat="A"> <upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid> <upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>I think this is cleaner. Dropping ハクチョウ wouldn't be consistent with our usual style for animal entries. Daijr and smk have the "white bird" sense for はくちょう.</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -22,0 +23,4 @@ +&lt;/sense&gt; +&lt;sense&gt; +&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt; +&lt;gloss&gt;white bird&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> </history> </entry>
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