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<k_ele>
<keb>柳葉魚</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ししゃも</reb>
</r_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>シシャモ</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<lsource xml:lang="ain">susam</lsource>
<gloss>shishamo smelt (Spirinchus lanceolatus)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2021-03-05 07:26:09" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Opencooper</upd_name>
<upd_refs>jawiki: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%A2
K/M n-grams:
柳葉魚 101
ししゃも 3477
シシャモ 1755</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -15,0 +16 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-03-05 22:11:51" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-23 22:43:19" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>nikk: (アイヌsusam)
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%A2#%E5%90%8D%E7%A7%B0
>> シシャモ」という名称は、アイヌ語のsusam(スサム、語源はsusu(スス(シュシュ))=楊、ham(ハム)=葉とされる)に由来する。</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +17 @@
-<lsource xml:lang="ain">susuhamu</lsource>
+<lsource xml:lang="ain">susam</lsource></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-24 08:45:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Sombrero1</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Wouldn't we usually have it as 柳葉魚:シシャモ since it's a foreign word used with kanji as 熟字訓?
I mean, I can see that ししゃも is used a lot, and sankoku even gives it as a headword. So it does make sense to have it.
But most kokugos have it as 柳葉魚:シシャモ, as described.
What about having a [nokanji] tag on ししゃも instead? Just out of curiosity
This way we would dissociate ししゃも from the kanji form and have シシャモ be the reading.
It doesn't give an error but I doubt it has been done before, has it?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────────┬───────╮
│ 柳葉魚 │ 8,263 │ 2.6% │
│ ししゃも │ 240,181 │ 77.0% │
│ シシャモ │ 63,547 │ 20.4% │
╰─ーーーー─┴─────────┴───────╯
ししゃも・シシャモ is 熟字訓 for 柳葉魚
Kanjipedia, Sankoku
.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-24 10:37:54" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-25 00:52:54" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>For タバコ, we decided just to drop the nokanji tag. I think we should do the same here.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -13 +12,0 @@
-<re_nokanji/></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-26 09:46:26" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I'd keep it, but not a big deal.</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>