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<entry id="2352583" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1609970</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>知らず知らず</keb>
<ke_pri>ichi1</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>知らず識らず</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>不知不識</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>不識不知</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>しらずしらず</reb>
<re_pri>ichi1</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&adv;</pos>
<gloss>unconsciously</gloss>
<gloss>without knowing it</gloss>
<gloss>unwittingly</gloss>
<gloss>unawares</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2022-08-10 08:09:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Adding yoji tags based on gakken, shinmeikai and-or jitenon
-*- via bulkupd.py -*-</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -19,0 +20 @@
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;yoji;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-18 18:15:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>GM</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think we can drop the [yoji].</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>知らず知らず 345,792  97.6% 
知らず識らず   1,560   0.4% -rK (daijs)
不知不識       371   0.1% -rK (oukoku)
しらずしらず   6,605   1.9%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -9,0 +10 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -12,0 +14 @@
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
@@ -20 +21,0 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;yoji;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-20 03:52:55" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Since 不知不識/ふちふしき is a separate entry, with an xref to here, I think it can be dropped as a kanji form. It's at best a wierd gikun use of しらずしらず.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,4 +9,0 @@
-&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
-&lt;/k_ele&gt;
-&lt;k_ele&gt;
-&lt;keb&gt;不知不識&lt;/keb&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-20 21:53:43" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Sombrero1</upd_name>
<upd_detl>Based on that I don't think 不知不識 should be dropped.
At the minimum it should be included as an [sK], though I don't see the harm in having it as an [rK] as it meets the threshold.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Based purely on references しらずしらず seems to be more common for 不知不識.
That said, 不知不識 itself is not common and I thus wasn't able to source any examples with confirmed readings (a shame that yourei.jp is gone).

不知不識(しらずしらず): Nikkoku, Shinsen, Saito, Oukoku, Iwakoku, GendaiRK, Koj
不知不識(ふちふしき): Daijs, Nikkoku

Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーー─┬─────┬───────╮
│ 不知不識 │ 371 │ 93.9% │
│ 不識不知 │  24 │  6.1% │add; [sK]
╰─ーーーー─┴─────┴───────╯
Nikkoku even has just these two for しらずしらず

Smk: もとは「{不知}{不識}」と書いて、返り読みをした。

.</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -10,0 +11,8 @@
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;不知不識&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;rK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;
+&lt;/k_ele&gt;
+&lt;k_ele&gt;
+&lt;keb&gt;不識不知&lt;/keb&gt;
+&lt;ke_inf&gt;&amp;sK;&lt;/ke_inf&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-22 21:57:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think it's OK as an rK form.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5, prog</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,0 +27 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;without knowing it&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>



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