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<k_ele>
<keb>手打ち</keb>
<ke_pri>news2</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf26</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>手打</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>手討ち</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>手討</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>てうち</reb>
<re_pri>news2</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf26</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<gloss>striking a deal</gloss>
<gloss>coming to an agreement</gloss>
<gloss>reconciliation</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>making noodles by hand</gloss>
<gloss>making handmade noodles</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>manual input (on a computer, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>entering (text) by hand</gloss>
<gloss>typing</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vt;</pos>
<gloss>swing (of a racket, bat or club) using only the arms (i.e. without proper body movement)</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&arch;</misc>
<s_inf>usu. written as 手討ち</s_inf>
<gloss>putting (a retainer or peasant) to death with one's own sword (of a samurai)</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2025-03-08 16:32:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -27,0 +28,4 @@
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<gloss>typing by hand</gloss>
+</sense></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-08 17:03:19" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>Sombrero1</upd_name>
<upd_detl>What we have here is essentially doubled I believe. The now fifth sense we have is also what we have for the sole 手討ち entry. I think it can be merged into this entry with a note since Saito has that sense for this kanji form as well.
Also for the new sense (fourth), a ref is always nice. I currently don't see it, maybe someone else does?</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 手打ち │ 1.184.046 │ 82.7% │
│ 手打 │ 220.070 │ 15.4% │Shinsen, Smk ; add
│ 手打ちする │ 8.861 │ 0.6% │[vs,vt] in sankoku, shinsen ; GG5 has [vs] just for the noodles sense ; I am a bit sceptical of that transitivity tag
│ 手打する │ 82 │ 0.0% │
│ 手打ちし │ 17.888 │ 1.2% │
│ 手打し │ 273 │ 0.0% │
╰─ーーーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯
Google N-gram Corpus Counts
╭─ーーー─┬───────────┬───────╮
│ 手打ち │ 1.184.046 │ 84.0% │
│ 手打 │ 220.070 │ 15.6% │
│ 手討ち │ 4.078 │ 0.3% │we have this as a seperate entry, but Smk and shinsen (and nikk) have it as one and some other kokugos mention it ; add ; [rK]
│ 手討 │ 615 │ 0.0% │add ; [sK]
╰─ーーー─┴───────────┴───────╯
For the now fifth sense
Saito has 1. (=主君が家来を我が手に掛けること)(a lord's) putting (a retainer) to death with his own hands
I think "after a disrespectful act" can be omitted from our gloss.
Other kokugos also say the punishment was given by a samurai
Oukoku and Iwakoku:
③ 昔、武士がみずから手を下して、落ち度のあった家臣や町人を切り殺したこと。「―にする」
③は「手討ち」とも書く。
→ "Capital punishment" sense is archaic, putting it last
GG5 mentions it was also written as "お手討ち" (お手討ち 1.031)
ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー
Smk, shinsen: ❸テニスやゴルフなどで、手先や腕力だけで打つこと。
Added sense, sports tag?</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -7,0 +8,11 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>手打</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>手討ち</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>手討</keb>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -15,0 +27,2 @@
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -16,0 +30 @@
+<gloss>making handmade noodles</gloss>
@@ -19,0 +34,2 @@
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -26 +42,3 @@
-<gloss>killing with bare hands</gloss>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<gloss>hitting (the ball) with one's finger or arm strength alone (e.g. in tennis or golf)</gloss>
@@ -30,0 +49,9 @@
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos>
+<misc>&arch;</misc>
+<s_inf>esp. 手討ち; sometimes also お手討ち</s_inf>
+<gloss>capital punishment given personally by a feudal lord or samurai</gloss>
+<gloss>putting (a retainer) to death with one's own hands</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-08 20:36:18" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Looks fine.
I can't see any support for that typing sense. Best omitted.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -48,4 +47,0 @@
-<gloss>typing by hand</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-15 15:11:11" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>For the "typing sense":
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/srch/all/%E6%89%8B%E6%89%93%E3%81%A1/m0u/
5 「手入力」のこと。
出典:デジタル大辞泉(小学館)</upd_refs>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-15 23:12:30" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The "typing" was misleading.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -49,0 +50,8 @@
+<xref type="see" seq="2838107">手入力</xref>
+<field>&comp;</field>
+<gloss>manual input</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
+<pos>&vs;</pos>
+<pos>&vt;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-01 03:20:00" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>With this merge, 手討ち should be sK.
Suggesting a reordering of the senses.
Sense 3 isn't computing terminology.
I don't think all these senses are vs.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -14 +14 @@
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -26,0 +27,6 @@
+<gloss>striking a deal</gloss>
+<gloss>coming to an agreement</gloss>
+<gloss>reconciliation</gloss>
+</sense>
+<sense>
+<pos>&n;</pos>
@@ -36,3 +42,3 @@
-<gloss>striking a deal</gloss>
-<gloss>coming to an agreement</gloss>
-<gloss>reconciliation</gloss>
+<gloss>manual input (on a computer, etc.)</gloss>
+<gloss>entering (text) by hand</gloss>
+<gloss>typing</gloss>
@@ -44 +50 @@
-<gloss>hitting (the ball) with one's finger or arm strength alone (e.g. in tennis or golf)</gloss>
+<gloss>swing (of a racket, bat or club) using only the arms (i.e. without proper body movement)</gloss>
@@ -48,10 +53,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<pos>&vt;</pos>
-<xref type="see" seq="2838107">手入力</xref>
-<field>&comp;</field>
-<gloss>manual input</gloss>
-</sense>
-<sense>
-<pos>&n;</pos>
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<pos>&vt;</pos>
@@ -59,3 +55,2 @@
-<s_inf>esp. 手討ち; sometimes also お手討ち</s_inf>
-<gloss>capital punishment given personally by a feudal lord or samurai</gloss>
-<gloss>putting (a retainer) to death with one's own hands</gloss>
+<s_inf>usu. written as 手討ち</s_inf>
+<gloss>putting (a retainer or peasant) to death with one's own sword (of a samurai)</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-11-01 05:43:08" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>