jmdict 2866360 Active (id#2343383)
<entry eid="2343383" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict"> <ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp> <ent_seq>2866360</ent_seq> <k_ele> <keb>読手</keb> </k_ele> <r_ele> <reb>どくしゅ</reb> </r_ele> <r_ele> <reb>よみて</reb> <re_inf>&sk;</re_inf> </r_ele> <sense> <pos>&n;</pos> <xref type="see" seq="1456220" sno="2" xk="読み手" xr="よみて">読み手(よみて)[2]</xref> <field>&cards;</field> <gloss>reader (in competitive karuta)</gloss> <gloss>reciter</gloss> <gloss>person who reads the cards</gloss> </sense> <history> <audit time="2025-07-01 18:56:27" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Jai Willink</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>At first I intended to edit seq 1456220 but I don't know whether the どくしゅ reading applies to senses 1 or 3, or even whether it applies to sense 2 in non-competitive forms of karuta, so I decided it would make more sense to make a new entry specifically for the competitive karuta usage, in which the どくしゅ reading is used almost exclusively. Notice in the reference video the speaker always says どくしゅ, not よみて. He is a 専任読手 which is the highest level of official reader in karuta (of which there are only 7 according to Yahoo Japan News as of 18/6/2025)</upd_detl> <upd_refs>https://www.karuta.or.jp/karuta/reading/</upd_refs> </audit> <audit time="2025-07-03 20:07:41" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> </audit> <audit time="2025-07-03 20:29:17" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Sombrero1</upd_name> <upd_detl>That note is odd, can be incorporated into the glosses. よみて is in the other entry, since those are different as per your reasoning and experience in playing it shouldn't direct to this entry as well. This would blur the line again. The bidirectional xref does the job in that regard</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -10,4 +9,0 @@ -&lt;r_ele&gt; -&lt;reb&gt;よみて&lt;/reb&gt; -&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;sk;&lt;/re_inf&gt; -&lt;/r_ele&gt; @@ -18,2 +14 @@ -&lt;s_inf&gt;(comp. karuta)&lt;/s_inf&gt; -&lt;gloss&gt;reader&lt;/gloss&gt; +&lt;gloss&gt;reader (in competitive karuta)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> <audit time="2025-07-04 16:17:02" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Jai</upd_name> <upd_detl>Only reason I added it was because on googling e.g. 「競技かるた どくしゅ よみて」 there are some results giving both as readings for 読手 in the competitive karuta context, so although I always hear どくしゅ I'm not 100% sure that よみて isn't acceptable. I don't have a strong opinion on what this should mean for the entry - whether よみて should be a normal reading, search-only, or not at all - but hopefully this is useful information at least</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2025-07-05 18:37:56" stat="A" unap="true"> <upd_name>Sombrero1</upd_name> <upd_detl>Hmm, I see. I do still think it's better to use that as a separation criterion. But I can say very little else since I have no knowledge of karuta Someone who happened to find よみて in this context will still get the information necessary from the other entry. Also I don't believe that's what [sk] is usually used for</upd_detl> </audit> <audit time="2025-07-05 21:34:38" stat="A"> <upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid> <upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name> <upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email> <upd_detl>I think it's OK as a hidden reading.</upd_detl> <upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9,4 @@ +&lt;/r_ele&gt; +&lt;r_ele&gt; +&lt;reb&gt;よみて&lt;/reb&gt; +&lt;re_inf&gt;&amp;sk;&lt;/re_inf&gt;</upd_diff> </audit> </history> </entry>
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