<entry eid="2334374" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>2009110</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>無いものねだり</keb>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>無い物強請り</keb>
<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>無い物ねだり</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>ない物ねだり</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>無いもの強請り</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<k_ele>
<keb>ないもの強請り</keb>
<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>ないものねだり</reb>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<misc>&uk;</misc>
<gloss>asking for the moon</gloss>
<gloss>asking for the impossible</gloss>
<gloss>asking for too much</gloss>
<gloss>thinking the grass is greener on the other side of the fence</gloss>
</sense>
<history>
<audit time="2015-10-26 14:41:20" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_name>luce</upd_name>
<upd_detl>borderline [uk]</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>n-grams
無い物ねだり 795
ないものねだり 1444
ない物ねだり 70
無いものねだり 644</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,3 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>無いものねだり</keb>
@@ -12,0 +16 @@
+<misc>&uk;</misc></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2015-10-27 01:03:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-09-07 05:56:23" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<gloss>asking for the impossible</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2016-09-07 09:11:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>johan</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Johan Råde</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>gg5
ngrams</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -3,0 +4,3 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>無いものねだり</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -8 +11 @@
-<keb>無いものねだり</keb>
+<keb>ない物ねだり</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-06-08 15:27:47" stat="A">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,0 +19 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-25 06:52:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>We don't have ねだり marked as vs. GG5/daij don't mark this as vs.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>daijs 無い物強請り
g ng
無いものねだり 26478
無い物ねだり 19102
ない物ねだり 2205
無いもの強請り 1493 (adding this one + the one in daijs, ignoring the two bottom ones)
無い物強請り 697 (daijs)
ないもの強請り 344
ない物強請り 36
daijr
"無いものをむりに欲しがること。" ほしがる i.e. not necessarily "asking for" but just "wanting" so "pining" seems like a reasonable
translation.
https://eikaiwa.dmm.com/uknow/questions/2158/
https://eikaiwa.dmm.com/uknow/questions/24826/
https://eikaiwa.dmm.com/uknow/questions/1050/
("crying/asking for the moon" comes first in all three but "the grass is greener" appears as suggestions in all of them as well)
https://twitter.com/_L0UE_/status/1065595455294205952
"彼氏がいれば面倒臭い、
彼氏がいなければ寂しい。
嫉妬されれば喧嘩をして、
嫉妬されなければ不安になる。
お金があればたかられて、
お金がなければお腹が空く。
結局みんなないものねだり。"
This comic as well:
https://twitter.com/ima_no_numa_/status/1066214243802869760
https://twitter.com/flower_hrssh/status/1066212103273373698
"夏の声🌻🌴🎆
今は夏が恋しい
「ないものねだり」だな"</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -12,0 +13,6 @@
+<k_ele>
+<keb>無いもの強請り</keb>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>無い物強請り</keb>
+</k_ele>
@@ -16,0 +23 @@
+<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -18,2 +24,0 @@
-<pos>&vs;</pos>
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -21,0 +27,2 @@
+<gloss>pining for what one doesn't have</gloss>
+<gloss>thinking the grass is greener on the other side of the fence</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-11-25 20:12:42" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-08-25 05:20:39" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>無いものねだり 26478 22.7%
無い物ねだり 19102 16.4%
ない物ねだり 2205 1.9%
無いもの強請り 1493 1.3%
無い物強請り 697 0.6%
ないものねだり 66810 57.2%</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -8,0 +9 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -11,0 +13 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -14,0 +17 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
@@ -17,0 +21 @@
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-08-25 08:13:01" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -5,0 +6,4 @@
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>無い物強請り</keb>
+<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf>
@@ -18,4 +21,0 @@
-</k_ele>
-<k_ele>
-<keb>無い物強請り</keb>
-<ke_inf>&rK;</ke_inf></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-14 23:50:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>ないもの強請り 344</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -20,0 +21,4 @@
+<ke_inf>&sK;</ke_inf>
+</k_ele>
+<k_ele>
+<keb>ないもの強請り</keb></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-15 00:02:01" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-15 01:26:48" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Just a noun in a kokugos.
I don't like "pining for what one doesn't have". You wouldn't pine for something you already have.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -31 +30,0 @@
-<pos>&exp;</pos>
@@ -35 +34,2 @@
-<gloss>pining for what one doesn't have</gloss>
+<gloss>asking for the impossible</gloss>
+<gloss>asking for too much</gloss>
@@ -37,2 +36,0 @@
-<gloss>asking for too much</gloss>
-<gloss>asking for the impossible</gloss></upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2025-03-15 01:50:28" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
</history>
</entry>
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