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<entry id="2317635" stat="A" corpus="jmdict" type="jmdict">
<ent_corp type="jmdict">jmdict</ent_corp>
<ent_seq>1178210</ent_seq>
<k_ele>
<keb>遠征</keb>
<ke_pri>news1</ke_pri>
<ke_pri>nf10</ke_pri>
</k_ele>
<r_ele>
<reb>えんせい</reb>
<re_pri>news1</re_pri>
<re_pri>nf10</re_pri>
</r_ele>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<gloss>(military) expedition</gloss>
<gloss>campaign</gloss>
</sense>
<sense>
<pos>&n;</pos>
<pos>&vs;</pos>
<pos>&vi;</pos>
<gloss>expedition (for exploration, research, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>travelling (a long way)</gloss>
<gloss>tour (by a sports team, performer, etc.)</gloss>
<gloss>visit</gloss>
</sense>
<info>
<audit time="2014-12-20 18:09:01" stat="A">
<upd_uid>rene</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Rene Malenfant</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_diff>@@ -26 +26,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;away series (baseball)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;field&gt;&amp;baseb;&lt;/field&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;away series&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-05-17 17:08:25" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>The kokugos do it slightly differently but I think this is the most sensible split.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>prog, gg5, daij</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -17 +16,0 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
@@ -19,2 +18 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;campaign&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;(performer's) tour&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(military) campaign&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -25,3 +23,2 @@
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;adj-no;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;field&gt;&amp;baseb;&lt;/field&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;away series&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tour (by a sports team, performer, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;visit&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2018-05-18 02:55:07" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-25 11:25:46" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>Marcus</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Marcus Richert</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_refs>mk</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -16,0 +17,2 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vi;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;misc&gt;&amp;hist;&lt;/misc&gt;
@@ -22,0 +25 @@
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vi;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2021-11-27 00:52:09" stat="A">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Sense 1 isn't limited to military contexts.</upd_detl>
<upd_refs>gg5: ヒマラヤ遠征　an expedition to the Himalayas</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -18 +17,0 @@
-&lt;misc&gt;&amp;hist;&lt;/misc&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-10 00:21:35" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_refs>daijs 遠方へ
meikyo 遠方まで</upd_refs>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,2 +25,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;tour (by a sports team, performer, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;visit&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tour (by a sports team, performer, etc.) from afar&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;faraway visit&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-10 04:37:06" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-12 01:52:27" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I don't like "from afar" here. You go on a tour *to* somewhere. Also, with the examples helping to establish the context, I think "遠方まで" is already implied.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,2 +25,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;tour (by a sports team, performer, etc.) from afar&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;faraway visit&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;tour (by a sports team, performer, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;visit&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-12 10:06:12" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-12 13:01:53" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>OK, the phrasing might have been bad, but the specific context I saw this used in was one where people were complaining about a change in availability of an item in a kyoto store because they had already booked tickets to go there all the way from tohoku. 遠征 here was used to emphasize it was no small trip for them. this nuance does matter and the specific comment I saw makes no sense with the current entry as a key. The examples don't cover this context at all.</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-13 00:59:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>robin1354</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Robin Scott</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I think this works better if we restrict sense 1 to the "military campaign" meaning and expand the scope of sense 2, like in daijr/s and meikyo.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -18,2 +18,2 @@
-&lt;gloss&gt;expedition&lt;/gloss&gt;
-&lt;gloss&gt;(military) campaign&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;(military) expedition&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;campaign&lt;/gloss&gt;
@@ -24,0 +25,2 @@
+&lt;gloss&gt;expedition (for exploration, research, etc.)&lt;/gloss&gt;
+&lt;gloss&gt;travelling (a long way)&lt;/gloss&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-13 01:07:56" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>stephen</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Stephen Kraus</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>5 tatoeba sentences: 1 about a sports team (遠征試合) and 4 about expeditions (presumably the second sense).</upd_detl>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-13 01:26:10" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_detl>A suggestion.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -25,0 +26,5 @@
+&lt;/sense&gt;
+&lt;sense&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vs;&lt;/pos&gt;
+&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vi;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-13 06:47:25" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>I've proposed an entry for 遠征試合.
I prefer Robin's proposed two senses. I'll pin it at that and reopen.</upd_detl>
<upd_diff>@@ -26,5 +25,0 @@
-&lt;/sense&gt;
-&lt;sense&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;n;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vs;&lt;/pos&gt;
-&lt;pos&gt;&amp;vi;&lt;/pos&gt;</upd_diff>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-13 06:47:40" stat="A" unap="true">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
</audit>
<audit time="2024-10-16 20:33:13" stat="A">
<upd_uid>jwb</upd_uid>
<upd_name>Jim Breen</upd_name>
<upd_email>...address hidden...</upd_email>
<upd_detl>Closing</upd_detl>
</audit>
</info>
</entry>
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