Re: [edict-jmdict] adj-i/adj-ix issues

2 1/2 years late, but... I think splitting ～いい and ～よい entries into two created something of a mess. Lots of these entries already had X_が_良い and X_の_良い versions ― so now each of these entries could really be four. Our 乗りがいい/ノリが良い/ノリの良い series of entries is a good example of how messy things can get.

What's worse, I think it's also a little misleading. 良い is frequently (possibly most often, even) read as いい. Both Daijisen and Daijirin explicitly list 好い, 善い and 良い in their いい entries (Daijirin also lists 宜い), so we're obviously going against our 2/3 rule here, if it weren't for the fact we had decided that いい and よい are different PoS.

But if the point of adj-ix is just to point out that an adjective doesn't conjugate, it seems superfluous ― we already have adj-f. In the helpfile, though, adj-ix is only defined as "yoi/ii i-adjective". Wouldn't it make more sense to tag both よい and いい as adj-ix, then, and get rid of the messy splits? Isn't it all just a matter of how we define it? adj/ix "yoi/i-adjective - always conjugates as よい - いい is only used in 終止形/連体形"

Marcus

2015-07-14 13:16 GMT-10:00 Jim Breen jimbreen@********* [edict-jmdict] <edict-jmdict@***************>:

My friend Etsuko Toyoda at Melbourne University, who is building
some interesting educational tools, has been casting a critical eye
over JMdict and sending me useful feedback. She just sent me a list
of 53 ~いい entries that have "adj-i" POS tags instead of the "adj-ix"
ones we introduced a while back to indicate they don't conjugate. I'll
append the list below.

Most of the entries on the list need to be split into two entries; a
良い/よい one and an いい one with their respective POS tags. I plan
to do a crash edit on them, and self-approve them unless there is
something that I think needs some discussion. I don't want to load
about a hundred items into the approvals process.

Cheer

Jim

Etsuko's list:

仲いい | 2819020
頭いい | 2261200
頭がいい | 2146840
方がいい | 2160680
人のいい | 1366480
仲のいい | 2238070
人がいい | 2250200
運がいい | 1172620
丁度いい | 2276090
運のいい | 2411190
腕のいい | 2540650
質がいい | 2259560
仲がいい | 1425720
虫のいい | 1426710
虫がいい | 1426690
頭のいい | 1856550
腕がいい | 1860340
品がいい | 1881020
性のいい | 1882910
分けいい | 1503100
品のいい | 1905150
気がいい | 2056620
乗りいい | 1355110
都合のいい | 2264740
歯切れいい | 2658730
通りのいい | 2238110
気分のいい | 2238090
機嫌がいい | 2235710
持ちのいい | 2238050
切りのいい | 2238060
受けのいい | 2238080
切りがいい | 1383820
居心地いい | 2257650
気前のいい | 1222420
受けがいい | 1859960
気分がいい | 1869690
持ちがいい | 1315480
健康にいい | 1873940
調子がいい | 2620870
要領がいい | 2709150
大人かわいい | 2593500
喉越しのいい | 2064850
記憶力がいい | 1223200
居心地のいい | 1231840
舌触りがいい | 1880710
肉づきのいい | 1463690
肉付きがいい | 2255200
居心地がいい | 1630080
歯切れのいい | 1313420
肉付きのいい | 1463690
日当たりのいい | 2745250
住み心地のいい | 1334000

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Jim Breen
Adjunct Snr Research Fellow, Japanese Studies Centre, Monash University