Re: [edict-jmdict] Rōmaji usage in dictionary entries

[Ben Bullock <benkasminbullock@*********>]

On 16 August 2017 at 15:58, Jim Breen jimbreen@gmail.com
[edict-jmdict] <edict-jmdict@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I'd like to raise the issue of the style of romanization used
> within dictionary glosses. This primarily occurs in two areas:
> - where a Japanese term is commonly used in English, e.g.
> "karaoke" or "manjū".
> - where a Japanese proper noun is used in an entry, e.g.
> "Kyōhō era (1716.6.22-1736.4.28)".
>
> At present there is a mix of traditional and modified Hepburn
> with and without macrons for long vowels, and "ワープロ" ローマ字
> with "ou", etc. for long vowels. (We have one entry with Tōhoku and
> 28 with Tohoku.)
>
> I propose that for the use of ローマ字 in glosses we stick to the modified
> Hepburn style (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepburn_romanization)
> with long vowels indicated with macrons.

Re-hashing a discussion from sci.lang.japan, but the Wikipedia article
claims that Hepburn romanisation contains two different forms
depending on the kana script, either shiitake for hiragana or shitake
with a macron over the i for a katakana word:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepburn_romanization#Loanwords

Last time I checked, there was no supporting evidence for this even in
any of the references given on the Wikipedia article. Is it really a
good idea to use a fictional romanisation dreamt up by Wikipedians?

> These can be handled in Unicode,
> and our EDICT conversion routines can sort it out fine for the JIS-coded
> versions.
>
> If no-one has any objections I propose to add a section about this to the
> editorial policy page (http://www.edrdg.org/wiki/index.php/Editorial_policy)
> and invite editors and others to amend entries to mke them conform. I'd
> like to clean up the era names, which have a mix of styles at present.

I object to the fictional romanisation used in Wikipedia.

> Cheers
>
> Jim
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> Jim Breen
> Adjunct Snr Research Fellow, Japanese Studies Centre, Monash University
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