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Re: [edict-jmdict] Policy question on using kanji in animal, etc. names.



I think adding the kanji for species' names is fine, but I think it's unnecessary to add them for taxa (with exceptions where the kanji version is obviously used). I think that the Japanese etymology is a lot less important when it's taxa, and the kanji readings are basically never used (I couldn't find any reliable sources even for 熊科, as opposed to クマ科). It's also worth mentioning that the Japanese Wikipedia will usually list the kanji for species, but never for taxa (at least not to the best of my knowledge).

Marcus

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:29 PM, René Malenfant <rene_malenfant@***********> wrote:
 

ペルーケナガアルマジロ (etc.) could be quite difficult for someone to tease apart without the kanji as a guideline.  I agree that it should be b) when (and only when) we can be certain that it is true the meaning of the name.  If there's any doubt or ambiguity it should be left without kanji.  This is one of my suggested "policies" for taxa names (and I would also apply it to names of families, orders, etc.).



Rene




On 2012-04-13, at 11:13 PM, Jim Breen wrote:

I want to raise a point of policy on adding kanji to
animal, etc. names that are usually in katakana.

Consider the two new entries:
ケナガアルマジロ - screaming hairy armadillo (the mind boggles)
and
ペルーケナガアルマジロ - Andean hairy armadillo

The "ケナガ" is clearly from 毛長, and sure enough there
are a few WWW hits for 毛長アルマジロ, so it's safe
to add that form and mark the entry "uk".

But ペルー毛長アルマジロ gets no WWW hits at all.

Should we:
(a) take the position that it's never written with 毛長 (since
there are no WWW hits) and leave it in katakana only;
(b) be a bit prescriptive and put in ペルー毛長アルマジロ
anyway, on the grounds that it may well be like that in some book
and that ケナガ is really reflecting 毛長. Of course
ペルーケナガアルマジロ will be in the entry, and with the "uk"
tag will come to the front in clients like WWWJDIC.

I'm inclined to (b), but it would be good to have a discussion
about it.

Jim

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Jim Breen
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