Re: [edict-jmdict] adv-to entries.

["Paul Blay" <blay.paul@**************>]

> > > > * Saying ぎくっと is an, indivisible, word leaves you with the problem of
> > > > a) ぎくっ used on its own (as sort of emoticon in chats, in manga etc.)
> > > > b) uses like ギクって.
> > >
> > > sure. yet, not all words of the form (xxxx + particle と) don't act
> > > in the same way.
> >
> > It may be 4:30 in the morning (and I shouldn't be awake) but are
> > there _really_ any 'etymological' と's that doesn't have at least
> > one of those apply?
>
> humm, I am not sure what I was trying to say yesterday.
> What I should have said is :
> a) I would rather have the entry like this :
>         ぎくっと (adv) + something saying the final と can be drop in
>                 some very informal context
>
> than
>         ぎくっ (adv,adv-to)
>
> For me the latter one seems to say that ぎくっ is more common than
> ぎくっと, which is probably false.

Well I'm suggesting either
ぎくっ (adv-to) or ぎくっと (adv-to)
not
ぎくっ (adv,adv-to)

I'm not at all sure your assertion is false though.

Looking at Yahoo.co.jp web hits ...

"ギクッ" 293,000
"ギクッと" 36,700
"ギクっと" 19,600
"ギクって" 453

Of course there's an "internet bias" in that as ギクッ is a common
emoticon in blogs / chats.

> b) Sorry, I didn't know that ぎくっと could be change into ギクって.

Well I don't mean to imply that ギクって is common (and it looks
like it's less common than I thought).

> What's its meaning ?

Good question.  In at least some cases it doesn't seem to be
any different from ギクっと.  For that reason I suspect that any
擬態語 / 擬音語 that can be used with (っ)と can also be used with
(っ)て.

「あなたそれはミスリードですよ！」って出てくるたんびにギクってします。

In other cases it should probably be viewed as the word/sound/effect
ギク with the quoting って. (ギク was probably a bad example because
it already has a separate entry of sorts).

心臓に稲妻が落ちたくらい「ギク」ってかんじだったから。